The Hearts of the Suffering

[Siriel]

Given that Saber's fighting style is dependant on Excalibur to work

Not...really?

Give her literally any other sword (of similar shape) that won't break and she should be set unless she ends up fighting Cthulu or something.

[Pata Hikari]

Concidering Shirou's right there even breaking wouldn't be a problem.

Just chuck a new sword at her each swing.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Given that Saber's fighting style is dependent on Excalibur to work, doesn't that make her essentially useless?

This is pretty much a line later in the story, heh.

[forumghost]

Not...really?

Give her literally any other sword (of similar shape) that won't break and she should be set unless she ends up fighting Cthulu or something.

Except that any and every sword available will break almost straight away because lol!pranaburst

[Kirby]

Saber resorts to fist-fighting?

[Arashi_Leonhart]

[Knick]

Considering Saber's master is someone who can make NPs I don't think it should be much of an issue.

Shirou can literally supply Saber with swords to use in combat. A NP should be able to take a couple of pranabursts.

Granted it would be taxing on Shirou, but it would make sense. Especially if he can trace Caliburn.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Forgetting, of course, that Shirou's NP's move on their own, so Saber would be doubly screwed trying to reign in such a weapon while fighting.

[forumghost]

Forgetting, of course, that Shirou's NP's move on their own, so Saber would be doubly screwed trying to reign in such a weapon while fighting.

Wasn't only for Shirou though? (Not that I see why Saber would have issues dealing with a sword doing what she was going to do anyway, since it copy's her)

[Knick]

Forgetting, of course, that Shirou's NP's move on their own, so Saber would be doubly screwed trying to reign in such a weapon while fighting.

I personally think it is more of a Shirou with the weapon then just the weapon. Due to the whole "copying the history" thing.

Granted there should not be an issue with Caliburn since it fight makes Shirou fight like Saber, if anything it would be the perfect weapon to give Saber if he is able to trace it multiple times.

But that is something we will argue until the end of time unless Nasu makes it clear.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Sword moves in accordance to its history, it has nothing to do with who holds it.

And I feel the same way about him copycatting Caliburn, sure, but toss Caladbolg to Saber and she'd have to know how Fergus fought or something. inb4 Instinct

[Kelnish]

Sword moves in accordance to its history, it has nothing to do with who holds it.

And I feel the same way about him copycatting Caliburn, sure, but toss Caladbolg to Saber and she'd have to know how Fergus fought or something. inb4 Instinct

Tohsaka was overcome with how the jeweled sword was moving on its own. Definitely.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Tohsaka was overcome with how the jeweled sword was moving on its own. Definitely.

Yeah, because it totally has a history beyond what Rin was doing with it already. Parrying other swords and weaving a tight defense and setting up in a nice overhead ready position or middle guard position...

[forumghost]

Yeah, the real problem is more likely to be the sword shattering every time she tries to hit something, given that (IIRC) that's how Nasuverse Caliburn broke in the first place. Shirou's Gheto!Caliburn would probably break every 3 strikes.

[shiningphoenix]

Tohsaka was overcome with how the jeweled sword was moving on its own. Definitely.

Rin knows how Zelretch fought, and was able to move in accord with it, obviously.

[Kelnish]

Yeah, because it totally has a history beyond what Rin was doing with it already. Parrying other swords and weaving a tight defense and setting up in a nice overhead ready position or middle guard position...

You don't know that man. Literally generating your own head canon to justify your interpretation of canon. If only this was fanfiction where that is totally okay.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

You don't know that man. Literally generating your own head canon to justify your interpretation of canon. If only this was fanfiction where that is totally okay.

Moczo wouldn't lie to me, would he?

[Lycodrake]

Moczo wouldn't lie to me, would he?

Only if it was for your own good.

[Bloble]

What about Gil's weapons? Most of them haven't been used in a real fight, and Shirou definitely saw a few of them.

Of course, that still depends on how good this one's memory is.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Although I could see that for a comic moment.

"Here, I copied this out of Gate of Babylon!"
"Thank you Shi--" (Saber is rocketed forward by the sword shooting at mach speeds)"--ROOOOOOOOOOOOOO"