UBW Anime - ufotable's virtue is in a state of quantum uncertainty

[Christemo]

I've gotta admit, the Prototype armour is far more stylin' than the regular stuff.

There's always something to be said for armour that says something. Open your armour up at the front for style points- nothing says Well, what is it? better than armour that leaves the chest exposed.

[GhostDIGIT]

I hate almost every Gil expy.

[Christemo]

Im sorry for your loss.

[GhostDIGIT]

I haven't read Fragments yet so I might end up liking Ramesses.

[Break]

Gil expys tend to be great.

Its actually kind of funny that people regard Nero as a Saber clone when she was literally designed with the concept of "female roman Gil" in mind.

[Kat]

Too bad for her she's not even a poor man's Gilgamesh clone.

[King_of_None]

I thought she was closer to Alexander than Gil?

[Tobias]

Gil expys tend to be great.

Its actually kind of funny that people regard Nero as a Saber clone when she was literally designed with the concept of "female roman Gil" in mind.

No she wasn't, that's fanon.

[GhostDIGIT]

I hate it when fanon breaks my canon.

[Megas]

Wasn't Nero made cause Nasu was like "Alexander was a really wild character, I wanna make something like that too"

Or so I remember from the Q&A session....

Having the "black" one as the main character and the "white" one as the villain is a refreshing idea. Then, how about the red Saber (Saber Extra), who appeared in Fate/Extra?

Uro: That character is completely disconnected from the other Sabers. Personally, she looked like a female Gilgamesh to me.


Nasu: If I had written Fate/Zero, then Iskandar would have been a character like Red Saber. In my mind, I can only see Iskandar as a worthy opponent to Gilgamesh, but the Iskandar Urobuchi created was an excellent, wild, and unprecedented character that I could have never thought up. But I want to surpass him somehow, so maybe Red Saber was born out of my drive to create a different tyrant from Iskandar.

Uro thought she looked like a female Gil, but it doesn't really go further than that.

[Trubo]

>Complains about Ufotable being subtle, like not having Kuzuki tell why he's leaving them alive.

The complaints about that scene were more just how the liberties ufotable took when adapting the scene made it farfetched compared to the VN. But since you brought up the subtlety thing, let's quote Merriam-Webster's online dictionary:

Subtlety

: the quality or state of being subtle

: a small detail that is usually important but not obvious

Tell me, where in the anime adaptation of Desperate Projection there was small visual (i.e. facial expression, maybe some sort of Instinct thing) or minor dialogue clue that implied that Saber getting back up meant that Kuzuki would not be able to defeat her again.

>Complains about Ufotable not being subtle, like having Gill tell why he's leaving them alive.
I don't even care anymore...

When the degree of subtlety you can do amounts to a brick to the face, don't try for subtlety.

[Tobias]

Right, both that quote and another one from the artbook mention Nero kinda looks like a gender flipped Gil, but that was not her design.

[mAc Chaos]

Random question: so when UBW talks about Shirou not becoming Archer in his future, do they mean that he won't become a Heroic Spirit / CG, or that he won't become embittered?

If he is still going to become a Heroic Spirit, what does that mean? Is there another HS EMIYA out there in the Throne somewhere, or is he somehow part of the existing EMIYA already?

[King_of_None]

Yes?

[Kat]

Random question: so when UBW talks about Shirou not becoming Archer in his future, do they mean that he won't become a Heroic Spirit / CG, or that he won't become embittered?

If he is still going to become a Heroic Spirit, what does that mean? Is there another HS EMIYA out there in the Throne somewhere, or is he somehow part of the existing EMIYA already?

I think it means he won't contract at all, simple like that.

[Kirby]

I thought he only became embittered after death? So no contract = no embitterment I guess

[GhostDIGIT]

Random question: so when UBW talks about Shirou not becoming Archer in his future, do they mean that he won't become a Heroic Spirit / CG, or that he won't become embittered?

If he is still going to become a Heroic Spirit, what does that mean? Is there another HS EMIYA out there in the Throne somewhere, or is he somehow part of the existing EMIYA already?

He won't become a bitter ass is what it means.

[mAc Chaos]

Also, given all the talk about how explicating everything was bad, here's the same guy again from last week: http://rereadsandreviews.com/2015/05/31/ubw-21/

It looks like being explicit was actually received pretty well.

[Alternative Ice]

Random question: so when UBW talks about Shirou not becoming Archer in his future, do they mean that he won't become a Heroic Spirit / CG, or that he won't become embittered?

If he is still going to become a Heroic Spirit, what does that mean? Is there another HS EMIYA out there in the Throne somewhere, or is he somehow part of the existing EMIYA already?

I always thought it meant that Shirou would be doing pretty much the same thing, just not making a contract with Alaya and Rin making him take a break from the hero thing every now and again.

Can Shirou even become a heroic spirit with out making a contract and being a CG?

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[GhostDIGIT]

I thought he only became embittered after death? So no contract = no embitterment I guess

This.

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I always thought it meant that Shirou would be doing pretty much the same thing, just not making a contract with Alaya and Rin making him take a break from the hero thing every now and again.

Can Shirou even become a heroic spirit with out making a contract and being a CG?

Nope.