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    Damn, Vegeta just can’t catch a break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    If Goku pulls out Ultra Instinct, it wouldn't really be a deus ex machina - it's been set up properly.
    That said, I'm ready for this whole Moro arc to end. It was interesting when it started out, but now it's just boring.
    It's actually been set up that he CAN'T do Ultra Instinct. He could barely maintain Sign for the early part of the fight. Merus specifically said he couldn't go past that either, so him doing it now would just be a get out of jail free card like fusion would be.

    Could he, though? Perhaps Nail, but Kami and Piccolo are a single being who split in two, not different people fused together.
    Kami was once one with King Piccolo. This is Piccolo Jr, remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GDB View Post
    It's actually been set up that he CAN'T do Ultra Instinct.
    Limits can be overcome, though. Way back when the Saiyans invaded, King Kai specifically warned Goku not to go above double power when using the Kaioken, and he went up to quadruple power. As trite and overused as it can seem, it's a staple of the genre that you set limits just so it's more dramatic when the protagonists break them.

    ETA: That said, I *don't* think he'll pull off a complete form of Ultra Instinct, not just yet. I think they'll save it for a later situation.

    Kami was once one with King Piccolo. This is Piccolo Jr, remember.
    Piccolo is still King Piccolo Daimaoh for all intents and purposes, though. It's the reason why Kami didn't fade away after King Piccolo was killed, for instance, and why Piccolo explicitly says he's not "Piccolo" anymore after they merge, he's just a Namekian who forgot his name.

    That said, if Vegeta *can* split Piccolo from Nail and / or Kami, the fact that Piccolo doesn't take him up on this offer makes him seem monstrous.
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    I mean, the new Piccolo is his own being -- like Vegito. So it doesn't necessarily make sense for him to want to get split up, because that's essentially letting himself die.

    But I can't get excited over this arc, UI or not, I sleep. Moro had potential, but it didn't go anywhere.
    He never sleeps. He never dies.

    Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    I mean, the new Piccolo is his own being -- like Vegito. So it doesn't necessarily make sense for him to want to get split up, because that's essentially letting himself die.
    Sure, if we're talking about splitting Piccolo and Kami - but what about Nail?

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    Probably wouldn't do anything except weaken Piccolo. The Yardrats seemed to imply that those who had died because of Moro won't be revived just because their energy is released unless somehow their body were still in liveable condition.

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    Yes, but Nail's body wasn't left out to rot or anything of the sort, it became a part of Piccolo. Wouldn't splitting him from Piccolo just reform his body, too?

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    Master Roshi coming to FighterZ:

    "Here's a bangin lil' tune about takin' on The Man!"

    (Check out my Super Special Awesome Servant Compendium here)

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    I approve

    I actually want Jaco in too lol

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    I like their criteria for this list.
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    Bob the Builder's evil twin.
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    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


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    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


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    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.

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    I didn't even think of him.
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    Bob the Builder's evil twin.
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    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


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    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


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    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.

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    Curse
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    Yeah, that's a controversial pick I guess.
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    Bob the Builder's evil twin.
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    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


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    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


    Spoiler:
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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.

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    Curse
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    Not surprised this made it in.
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    Bob the Builder's evil twin.
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    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.

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    Curse
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    I expected this to be higher on the list because of how drastic the transformation is.
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    Bob the Builder's evil twin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post
    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Curse
    Blessing
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    I wish the form was used a little more.
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    Bob the Builder's evil twin.
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    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.

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    Curse
    Blessing
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    Someone pointed it out in the comments, but this form has never won a single fight in the canon, which is a shame.
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    Bob the Builder's evil twin.
    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post
    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.

    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Curse
    Blessing
    of the Boobs



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    Super Saiyan 3 is my favourite of the Super Saiyan forms. It just looks so savage, so animalistic! And I do appreciate that it comes with a drawback.

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    I was wondering how they would go about doing this, and they decided to include just the one.
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    Bob the Builder's evil twin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post
    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.

    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Curse
    Blessing
    of the Boobs



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    If they were only going to include one of Freeza's forms - and I understand why they would, though I'd argue Golden Freeza deserved a spot on the list -, it makes sense to pick his final transformation. Personally, though, my favourite transformation from one of Freeza's Species (does it have a canon name?), and probably of the whole series, is Cooler's fourth transformation.
    Also, Mecha Freeza's design sucks ass.

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