Heaven's Feel Movies

[Hakuno]

Because of him having to make some changes because of Nasu? Even Miura wanted to follow close as possible to the original story

[kotelo]

Because of him having to make some changes because of Nasu? Even Miura wanted to follow close as possible to the original story

The difference is that Sudou manned up and rejected everything.

IIRC Miura had the storyboard for ep20 ready but he didn't like it because "it was too much like the original" and asked Nasu to change it, thing Nasu did. I don't remember if it was in the BDBOX interview or elsewhere.

[Hakuno]

And then people complains because of him not doing a full every change that Nasu wanted to make or put in his drafts


So it was still a lose-lose situation for him following the fanbase's logic

IIRC Miura had the storyboard for ep20 ready but he didn't like it because "it was too much like the original" and asked Nasu to change it, thing Nasu did. I don't remember if it was in the BDBOX interview or elsewhere.

I was Nasu who wanted to change it

[kotelo]

Sure, but from what I've read from people who actually went to watch the movie, Sudou's approach paid off. For UBW Nasu wanted changes and Miura accepted, for HF Nasu wanted changes and Sudou refused. Simple as that.

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Of course, all of this based on what that Frog guy said about Sudou rejecting the changes.

[Hakuno]

Now lets wait for the drafts for HF to bash Sudou but not so hard for not having his name attached to Oblivion Recording

[kotelo]

In what sense would those drafts bash Sudou in any way?

[Hakuno]

That's the magic of the ones who only praise anything more if it was made by the author.
When the epilogue of UBW aired most people praise it like a really good ending and better than in the vn. Then when the draft of Nasu was posted.. well you already know how they feel about it

[kotelo]

Meh both were fine. Nasu's had more Luvia so I guess Luvia fans (?) would feel betrayed.

[Iceblade44]

Meh both were fine. Nasu's had more Luvia so I guess Luvia fans (?) would feel betrayed.

I would think at this point Luvia fans would be griping more on the fact she's ain't in GO yet.

[Wandering Swordwoman]

Reviewers while UBW aired: this is unwatcheable! They didn't develop X and Y characters at all! This isn't like Zero at all! BetaMale/10.

Reviewers after watching HF: You clearly need a very high IQ to understand HF. X and Y characters were already developed in the previous routes (go watch UBW) so it's fine. It's amazing how it relies in your previous knowledge to deliver an amazing final product. Masterpiece 10/10.

Ahahahaha lol
Any reviewer say something like that?

[kotelo]

Ahahahaha lol
Any reviewer say something like that?

A bit of hyperbole from me, but basically that.

[Wandering Swordwoman]

And that reviewer from ANN?

[Nobody]

What a smug snake

[Winter]

I see the side mouth problem continues.

Good thing this is just promotional mats.

[Bobin]

just look at him

He's having the time of his life playing wizard with his best friend.

[Kotonoha]

That's the magic of the ones who only praise anything more if it was made by the author.
When the epilogue of UBW aired most people praise it like a really good ending and better than in the vn. Then when the draft of Nasu was posted.. well you already know how they feel about it

People were asking why a CG was shooting 3 guys in a van before scripts came out.

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oh you said epilogue

[pandacmh]

Kudos to Sudou for standing firm with the original story and not "30 sentences watered down to 5" retcon mode Nasu.

But to be fair, we don't know what Nasu would change as well.

[Hakuno]

People were asking why a CG was shooting 3 guys in a van before scripts came out.

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oh you said epilogue

Yeah, I know that other things were odd choices
Im not trying to said that everything that he changed was justifiable, but it annoys me to see how they just put the blame in the guy because of his previous work in KnK and even making some false accusations about some changes that were not made by him in the first place

[remirror]

That's the magic of the ones who only praise anything more if it was made by the author.
When the epilogue of UBW aired most people praise it like a really good ending and better than in the vn. Then when the draft of Nasu was posted.. well you already know how they feel about it

IMO the epilogue was good except for that part after the credits that made lots of people think "wait, so Shirou becomes Archer after all?!" (As far as I can tell, this is a fairly common opinion.) That's exactly the part where Nasu's draft differs. So, I think it's totally legit to say that, in this one instance, Miura should have deferred to Nasu, but otherwise he should have stuck more with [the original VN/his own judgment].

[pandacmh]

I've read the article. Nasu said, he thought it would require a major rewrite to convey the themes and story of HF in an anime. He likened it to "brain surgery/organ transplant to a different person level of sophistication for an authentic experience", but when he read the script from Sudou, he likened it to" what the fuck is this? A magic grimoire?", basically mindblown at Sudou's ability. With that he is relieved and happy.