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    全力後輩 - Zenryoku Kohai Altima of the Gates's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuhanyou View Post
    SLH literally does not say bad end. And you have to be as much of an asshole as possible to Arturia to even get her to even consider the grail over Shirou in the first place in that ending you refer to.

    In regards to Mind of Steel, what makes it so interesting to me is that it is simply a choice presented to Shirou, and the true fork point of the route for his ideals. Kill Sakura and double down on a extreme world view, or dont, and go forward to eventually double down on another extreme world view.

    I'm going to contradict my previous post a bit and say, although i consider Mind of Steel a very interesting ending full of questions to Shirou's life after that, it does not fit with Shirou's character in a vacuum. He is a determinator. He has to have an extreme world view full of self destructive tendencies. If he makes a choice, he will see it through to the end regardless of what happens, no exceptions, that is how broken he is.

    However, as Shirou says throughout the visual novel, and Nasu has said himself as much, Shirou cannot live in the path of light unless Arturia is there to guide him. That is why she had to be taken out as early as possible. So Mind of Steel cannot canonically work with Shirou's character, because at that point, there was no Arturia to keep him on the path of the righteous.

    IE, Mind of steel, while a legitimate End, is just as canonically possible as Arturia cutting Shirou's head off to get the grail, which are just as likely as Shirou regretting his path taken in any of the 3 routes, the percentage is so low that its not worth mentioning
    I didn't argue otherwise on it being a bad end or not, my main argument is that it's silly to use that for a BD extra. And that bad end from Fate pretty much came from smartass comments he made or being standoffish, Shirou for the most part still fights with her and takes care of her, it's just the basic love/check system that they even make fun of in the Tiger Dojos themselves.
    You didn't really contradict your last post btw, since the very reason he came to that decision in Superhero was ignorance regardless of what his personality hell, even the same decision was still done in some manner of ignorance, that's the point, not even really that Saber isn't by his side, but that he was actively being fooled. The second decision to kill Sakura, for example Zouken keeps a lot of things from him that would screw the pooch, and after he makes the decision not too, he runs straight to Kirei and punches him in the face knowing he was in on it.
    The story at that point was more about taking advantage of the situation through manipulation of information than a straight moral quandry.
    Last edited by Altima of the Gates; January 13th, 2019 at 04:17 PM.

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    I'm curious about the post-credits preview for the next movie. How is it? I've seen some conflicting spoilers, so i'm really confused. Does it has any "hint" about the True Ending?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AimerHF View Post
    I'm curious about the post-credits preview for the next movie. How is it? I've seen some conflicting spoilers, so i'm really confused. Does it has any "hint" about the True Ending?
    Just see what Milbunk said last page.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milbunk View Post
    Spoilers for after credits stuff.

    Spoiler:
    Considering the ending preview of the next film is the final shot of the VN with the cherry blossom viewing I'd say it is pretty obvious that it will be the true end.

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    Oh, i didn't saw that. There's a review that said something really strange so i was really worried. Thank you.

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    Mind of Steel is the best HF ending, prove me wrong.

    You can't.
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    HF Normal is the best FSN ending, prove me wrong.

    You can't.

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    UBW True (Answer) says otherwise...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Mind of Steel is the best HF ending, prove me wrong.

    You can't.
    There isn't even an ending called like that in FSN.

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    Best ending is the one where Shirou gets machine gun arms (except that was just a dream and not actually an ending because nasu sucks)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Mind of Steel is the best HF ending, prove me wrong.

    You can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Mind of Steel is the best HF ending, prove me wrong.

    You can't.
    Actually its Femme Fatale.

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    Dunno, I feel like a Normal End take isn't going to be as likely now for how melancholic and unfitting it would be right after seeing how wholesome True End is. It'd feel like they decided to go back and spoil the happy ending by concluding it on a tragic note.
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    I don’t see a reason why they wouldn’t adapt the True End. We got True Ubw, so it makes sense to get the True Hf as well. Also, Illya’s sacrifice is an importsnt development.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    I didn't argue otherwise on it being a bad end or not, my main argument is that it's silly to use that for a BD extra. And that bad end from Fate pretty much came from smartass comments he made or being standoffish, Shirou for the most part still fights with her and takes care of her, it's just the basic love/check system that they even make fun of in the Tiger Dojos themselves.
    You didn't really contradict your last post btw, since the very reason he came to that decision in Superhero was ignorance regardless of what his personality hell, even the same decision was still done in some manner of ignorance, that's the point, not even really that Saber isn't by his side, but that he was actively being fooled. The second decision to kill Sakura, for example Zouken keeps a lot of things from him that would screw the pooch, and after he makes the decision not too, he runs straight to Kirei and punches him in the face knowing he was in on it.
    The story at that point was more about taking advantage of the situation through manipulation of information than a straight moral quandry.
    Fair enough, i was rambling a bit, expressing more of my thoughts on how interesting that end for Shirou was rather than anything else :hurr In the end though, i still think SLH is just awesome and well enough to include as a BD extra despite normal end being the obvious inclusion(being the actual featured alternate end)



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    Just got a soft confirmation that lost butterfly will get screened in my country, neat.
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    Arashi got mad at me on Twitter for listening to the guy who said it wouldn't screen in Canada, that's also soft confirmation right

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Just got a soft confirmation that lost butterfly will get screened in my country, neat.
    The people of Konnichiwa Fest will bring HF2 to Latin American, just like they did for the first one. Sudacas strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarlandGreene View Post
    Any link to that?

    Kika works at KF btw.
    Last edited by kotelo; January 13th, 2019 at 10:50 PM.

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    I meant for the Canadian screenings

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    Aww damn I don't know why I thought you quoted me lel, maybe the "k" at the beginning. Well, sorry.

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