Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Taku]

Aozaki always makes the table assuming NP1 for gold Servants (unless free) and self-buffs only, and if there's special modifiers like Gilgamesh extra damage against most Servants then that you're also triggering them. Though he also shows other things like damage after grailed or at NP5, check it out if you want.

Kinda hard to point out neutral damage for Alter Egos though. Either you're doing extra damage or you're doing half damage to the most common classes.

Gotcha, after checking the table I know how he got the number. Though, it's not using Kingprotea's extra 20% buster on NP if she has her skill 1 active.With that it would be 43.2k.

[Trubo]

Yeah, it's not just having her first skill active. She needs at least 1 of the HP stacks for her to gain the second Buster Up.

[Rafflesiac]

Really?

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Huh, I could've sworn otherwise after using support KPs. I'll have to check again then.

[Skittles]

hm since the removal of her HP buff is a demerit not a cost, does that mean you can do fun things with her and buff removal immunity?

[Taku]

Yeah, it's not just having her first skill active. She needs at least 1 of the HP stacks for her to gain the second Buster Up.

Ishtar delayed ATK buff is there tho.

hm since the removal of her HP buff is a demerit not a cost, does that mean you can do fun things with her and buff removal immunity?

Removal immunity doesn't work for her second skill.

[Trubo]

hm since the removal of her HP buff is a demerit not a cost, does that mean you can do fun things with her and buff removal immunity?

No. Her second skill cannot be bypassed when it comes to removing her HP stacks.

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Ishtar delayed ATK buff is there tho.

Oh, for some reason I thought you were saying she always benefits from the Growth Buster Up.

[Skittles]

solo'ed the BB/GO CQ with QSH and..divine banquet
yea I'm still not sure what the best CE+outfit for solos with him is

[Aozaki-desu]

Ishtar delayed ATK buff is there tho.

it doesnt take 10 turns to fully kick in which is why its there

[Trubo]

solo'ed the BB/GO CQ with QSH and..divine banquet
yea I'm still not sure what the best CE+outfit for solos with him is

2030, one of the various Anti-X CEs, or Kaleidoscope if he needs to NP immediately for some reason.

[Oz1337]

it doesnt take 10 turns to fully kick in which is why its there

You don't really need 10 turns to get the Buster Up effect from KP. Once you get one Max HP she has a permanent extra Buster Up on her NP. It does take 10 turns for you to get all the Max HP bonuses but you only need to wait one turn for the extra damage, like how it works with Ishtar's Mana Burst.

Unless you meant something else with that.

[Aozaki-desu]

You don't really need 10 turns to get the Buster Up effect from KP. Once you get one Max HP she has a permanent extra Buster Up on her NP. It does take 10 turns for you to get all the Max HP bonuses but you only need to wait one turn for the extra damage, like how it works with Ishtar's Mana Burst.

Unless you meant something else with that.

well i've never used her so i dont know exactly how her shit works
i guess if you only need one turn to get the buff its alright
but her second skill denies you buff if you use it so i'm not gonna add it anyway

[Trubo]

It's not a huge damage loss in any case, and you'll probably never use her NP back-to-back in normal situations since you'd need a minimum of 6 turns to get enough stacks + use the second skill.

[Nikiri]

There is no reason to use 2nd skill before NPing

after NPing, sure, maybe it even gives you 100% charge for another NP (this time without extra buster up)

[Oz1337]

Yeah, that's what I've been doing with her for farming. Kinda wish that just having the clock is enough to make her trigger the extra damage from her NP though.

[Aozaki-desu]

well i try to represent "average" damage in my table
since only reason to use kp is to stack her s1, her np will get a buff
but since using her that way means wasting fuckload of turns to stack hp, i wont include buffed damage
in case of back-to-back nps with buffed-unbuffed version its better to have reference for unbuffed damage and expect a bit more for buffed one
either way her baseline is unbuffed damage

[The Geek]

I finally did it after having to wait nearly two years I finally beat Kiara. Now I just need to get the extra copies of BB, though I'm worried that the game still says there's only 18 hours left even though it got extended. I'm guessing the timer will reset once we pass the original time it was supposed to end?

[You]

just did gawain's interlude
it's a lie
nice to see him fulfilling his CCC enforcer role again

[Skittles]

I finally did it after having to wait nearly two years I finally beat Kiara. Now I just need to get the extra copies of BB, though I'm worried that the game still says there's only 18 hours left even though it got extended. I'm guessing the timer will reset once we pass the original time it was supposed to end?

the timer on the actual stages say 5days, so you're probably good
i mean if we aren't then DW will fix it and also give apologems

rolled some more and ended up with NP3 tristan, that's about 180quartz+40+ tickets for no KP
which is about average I guess so I shouldn't complain
just really worried about a DL campaign with skadi popping up right after this
fuck
should I keep rolling

[GDB]

I'm hoping for a DL campaign with Ereshkigal soon. They have to release her in a banner that isn't the Christmas banner at some point, right?

[Aozaki-desu]

i need quartz, apples, and discounted dailies