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    Quote Originally Posted by mami-kouga View Post
    My only issue with this theory is that it basically guarantees Karna relevance and I just want a fucking Indian that is NOT Karna to have relevance this chapter.
    Why would you expect Karna NOT be relevant tho? He's the one foresshadowing Kalki and so on in Extella and happened to be the one guy who has the exact tool to kill ancient gods. Heck even if he is not in the LB himself, Chaldea's most logical move is to go there with at least an Indian servant who will be at the very least familiar with the Indian culture, and we had 3 candidates. Rama probably fits more in the role of a LB king in my view and Arjuna's role is probably gonna be filled with that Berserker. Remember that in LB3 we asked a very powerful Chinese servant to accompany us. I think the most obvious move would be doing the same.

    Sure I hope the chapter will subvert my expectations (in the GOOD way), so I'm open for any great ideas and new Indian servants. But as we've seen from previous 3 LBs, chance is that we're gonna go with mostly old cast on Chaldea side and some new faces on the enemy side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    Why would you expect Karna NOT be relevant tho? He's the one foresshadowing Kalki and so on in Extella and happened to be the one guy who has the exact tool to kill ancient gods. Heck even if he is not in the LB himself, Chaldea's most logical move is to go there with at least an Indian servant who will be at the very least familiar with the Indian culture, and we had 3 candidates. Rama probably fits more in the role of a LB king in my view and Arjuna's role is probably gonna be filled with that Berserker. Remember that in LB3 we asked a very powerful Chinese servant to accompany us. I think the most obvious move would be doing the same.

    Sure I hope the chapter will subvert my expectations (in the GOOD way), so I'm open for any great ideas and new Indian servants. But as we've seen from previous 3 LBs, chance is that we're gonna go with mostly old cast on Chaldea side and some new faces on the enemy side.
    I didn't say I expect him not to be relevant, but Rama and Arjuna (especially Rama) haven't had much to do since America and I want Arjuna to have development that's not related to Karna for once, which with his presence will automatically happen.

    There's also the issue that most of our allies or even some the servants present tend not to have anything to do with the location in question so hoping for all three of them to have a role is already hard enough to imagine.

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    Also Karna's role in most of the stories he's appeared in I'd to be the overly loyal Antagonist to the heroes. And I'm not sure if they won't just repeat that yet again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mami-kouga View Post
    I didn't say I expect him not to be relevant, but Rama and Arjuna (especially Rama) haven't had much to do since America and I want Arjuna to have development that's not related to Karna for once, which with his presence will automatically happen.

    There's also the issue that most of our allies or even some the servants present tend not to have anything to do with the location in question so hoping for all three of them to have a role is already hard enough to imagine.

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    Also Karna's role in most of the stories he's appeared in I'd to be the overly loyal Antagonist to the heroes. And I'm not sure if they won't just repeat that yet again.
    because having OP character as ally is boring/predictable (hard to make it interesting).

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    Just pull the usual strat and have Karna job. Easy. But, make it a jobbing that he could possibly come away from, so there's room for growth/etc. One possible avenue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    because having OP character as ally is boring/predictable (hard to make it interesting).
    Which is why I don't want him there at all. Either he does the typical antagonist jobbing he always does or he steamrolls our competition

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaRandomUsername View Post
    Just pull the usual strat and have Karna job. Easy. But, make it a jobbing that he could possibly come away from, so there's room for growth/etc. One possible avenue.
    Who could he possibly job to that would achieve that

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    The first idea as usual would be to have a convenient counter to his wasabi or as murica singularity does, backstabbing when he lose his armor while using wasabi.......any other idea? xD

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    Indian definitely has no shortage of strong heroes / servants / devas

    If anything, Arjuna and Karna are like low/middle - tier at best if you look at Indian Mythology

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    inb4 plot twist where kjarna doesn job and totally rulez instead

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    say the jobbing only inevitably happens meta wise because someone as strong as karna needs a plot nerf right

    if in lb4 he is surrounded by the same powerhorses as he is then logically shouldnt the plot need for him to job kinda really weakens

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    Inb4 we go to indian LB with Karna ready to fuck up all the bitches, and around the first corner is a couple of beggers who ask for his armor and spear, and Guda,being the goody-two shoes that he is,cant bring himself to stop him

    Alternatively its a text choice and refusing gets Karna cursed(nerfed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mami-kouga View Post
    There's also the issue that most of our allies or even some the servants present tend not to have anything to do with the location in question so hoping for all three of them to have a role is already hard enough to imagine.
    So you're saying Jing Ke, Nezha and later on Red Hare and Chengong were not Chinese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    because having OP character as ally is boring/predictable (hard to make it interesting).
    Define OP, because if you compare those like Karna or Arjuna to a bunch of other Indian figures they're not...so OP. Especially considering this LB might have some of the Hindu gods or demons involved.

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    Ganesha-Jinako or Sita are gonna be our "main" ally this chapter. My guess is Sita, since Jinako would be full meme, but hey, if that cube is the Moon Cell after all, then who knows?
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    Or maybe give us Kalki as main ally as we aid him in destroying the 2.4 India which is trapped in a loop of birth and destruction thanks to the Crypter and the boss of the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    Or maybe give us Kalki as main ally as we aid him in destroying the 2.4 India which is trapped in a loop of birth and destruction thanks to the Crypter and the boss of the area.
    Nah Saver will show up with Chakravartin and nuke the entire thing, welcoming all of the poor souls trapped in the samsara to nirvana.

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    There is a trick to how to make Karna not to job - not bringing him as a lancer.

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