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    Quote Originally Posted by Arha View Post
    Wait, I thought it was only SR exp. Right now I don't really value getting more - SA full, over 1k in mail - but I do have the space for it after the event Servants. Anyway, if the game is just going to give it to me I don't mind but I certainly don't need it.

    I think the improvements I value most right now would definitely be the dust/shells followed by, iono, QP I guess? Maybe the FPs for the potential Fous. The exp is just sort of there.
    Don't get me wrong, I also value Dust/Shells. But outside that, EXP then FP. QP is last since it's easily obtainable, more or less. Though that's subjective depending on the number of boxes we clear each lottery event.



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    so if you do NP chain with this order: Himiko - anyone - Tamamo, all party will gain 50 np gauge.

    time for stall team has come.

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    Questions re: CE bombs

    It's still better to make CE bombs out of 2* or 1* CE's right? I tried making a 3* one and noticed they still had the limit on accumulated exp (3,599,000 hard cap). Asking just to make sure I don't waste the EXP from the FP gacha.

    (Also lol, didn't even start the event, just rolling FP to make CE bombs)
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    biggest advantage of making 1* CE bomb is the cost

    leveling 1* CE costs way cheaper than leveling 5* directly

    also you should start the event asap because the rewards are good

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    biggest advantage of making 1* CE bomb is the cost

    leveling 1* CE costs way cheaper than leveling 5* directly
    Yeah, I know that. But what I meant with my question was should I just continue to make 1*/2* CE bombs rather than a 3* CE bomb, because the accumulated EXP caps on a 3* one where as it doesn't in the case of a 1* one?

    Trying it again on another 3* CE bomb did answer my question since it does seem it caps out after all (3.599k), so it is better to make 1* bombs after all, but I figured I might as well ask rather than waste CE's experimenting. Well, I did in the end but eh, we still have Christmas lotto coming up.

    Edit:

    Unless I have been operating under the wrong assumption and 1* CE's also have a hard cap like I'm noticing now

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    yeeeeeeeah, seems I was working on the wrong idea so far
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    also you should start the event asap because the rewards are good
    But I still have over a million FP to roll first

    but yeah, will probably start it soon after rolling half of that amount.
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    you're supposed to actually play this event? It feels like all I do is roll FP

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    so if you do NP chain with this order: Himiko - anyone - Tamamo, all party will gain 50 np gauge.

    time for stall team has come.
    Himiko > Caster > Tamamo. Expect insane NP chain strats for stalling purposes.



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    if Himiko is main offense then alternating
    Himino NP brave chain
    into
    Support NP Support NP / himiko npregain
    seems more efficient

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    Merlin-Tamamo tag team with 2x LB prisma cosmos and 400% tamamo np gets
    43% + 10x2 + 10x2 = 83%
    merlin gets 89% and there is his charisma
    and someone is getting hit
    so basically 2 turn loop is all but guaranteed

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    alternatively merlin gets ditched for a offensive unit
    consider qin who gets 87% atk up from np every 2 turns and takes all the heat for tamamo (himiko does not really care as she is pretty tanky herself)

    senpai with BHG could NP spam while enjoying stars, free buster and cd reduction from tamamo
    eresh for blessing of kur spam
    tomoe could go absolute batshit insane with ignite spam
    holmes would be similar to qin except it would kinda be himiko - holmes duet in which they alternate with damage dealing
    berserker nobu can pretend to be your merlin while pummeling the enemies
    plenty of options really given that youy can go both buster for himiko and arts for tamamo synergy
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    The Overcharge buff on NP is honestly quite ridiculous when paired with the right units. Before her the Overcharge buff was either added to CEs so you had a limited amount of uses, or added to skills so it wasn't that easy to spam often, usually because of their cooldown. They probably did it this way because some Servants have really powerful OC effects so you couldn't easily use them very often. You could fill it of course, but it's usually not very efficient to wait until 200% or 300% NP (if you can even reach that amount anyway because of NP levels).

    But by attaching it to NP, you can end up with ridiculous effects by skipping this annoying requirement, which is a huge difference and can lead to ridiculous NP chains, and the best part is that it's very easy to use often since Himiko has that NP charge and her NP gain isn't bad. We've already seen how powerful the Castoria + Tamamo + Himiko can end up like for example, with very little effort (apart from having the required units of course).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oz1337 View Post
    The Overcharge buff on NP is honestly quite ridiculous when paired with the right units. Before her the Overcharge buff was either added to CEs so you had a limited amount of uses, or added to skills so it wasn't that easy to spam often, usually because of their cooldown. They probably did it this way because some Servants have really powerful OC effects so you couldn't easily use them very often. You could fill it of course, but it's usually not very efficient to wait until 200% or 300% NP (if you can even reach that amount anyway because of NP levels).

    But by attaching it to NP, you can end up with ridiculous effects by skipping this annoying requirement, which is a huge difference and can lead to ridiculous NP chains, and the best part is that it's very easy to use often since Himiko has that NP charge and her NP gain isn't bad. We've already seen how powerful the Castoria + Tamamo + Himiko can end up like for example, with very little effort (apart from having the required units of course).
    I can't wait to see how far I can take my NP2 Illya now.

    400% OC Illya will burst hard.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabesque View Post
    Questions re: CE bombs

    It's still better to make CE bombs out of 2* or 1* CE's right? I tried making a 3* one and noticed they still had the limit on accumulated exp (3,599,000 hard cap). Asking just to make sure I don't waste the EXP from the FP gacha.

    (Also lol, didn't even start the event, just rolling FP to make CE bombs)
    You don't need to do anything special, just toss everything onto a mlb C CE until it's 50. Compared to trying to milk all the QP savings you could get, it's only like 1M QP per 100 CE worse.
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    Then I will ask that you pay closer attention
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    So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
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    It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trubo View Post
    You don't need to do anything special, just toss everything onto a mlb C CE until it's 50. Compared to trying to milk all the QP savings you could get, it's only like 1M QP per 100 CE worse.
    Who honestly cares about saving some QP at this point? I feel like I'm more often looking for ways to rid myself of QP then I am looking to save it.

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    And I went ahead and got my own copy of Himiko as well because this whole overcharge support thing sounds just intriguing enough for me want to have it open as a possibility. I was hesitant at first because I felt like if I got her I would almost never use her (I still have this worry btw) but just in case it does become a thing I've insured myself against it.

    Besides it's not like she was difficult to get. She was nice enough to come in only 3 11-shots so it ended up being a very light investment for potentially great gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendant View Post
    Who honestly cares about saving some QP at this point? I feel like I'm more often looking for ways to rid myself of QP then I am looking to save it.
    I care. I'm down to 300m from 500m.

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    Well, not that much. But I still care about min-maxing my QP supply for what could potentially happen.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendant View Post
    Who honestly cares about saving some QP at this point? I feel like I'm more often looking for ways to rid myself of QP then I am looking to save it.
    Eh, I still need something like 6B QP to max out all remaining skills (ignoring the whole Lore problem), but I'm not going to cry about losing 1M QP per 100 CE because it takes way too long to do the complicated CE leveling methods versus leveling C CEs straight to 50.
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    Then I will ask that you pay closer attention
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

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    The new node gives spiky balls when max upgraded. Don't think anyone mentioned that yet. So twelve days left, that's 24 spiky balls for no effort.

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    I wouldn't say "no effort". You're going to have to spend some apples if you want to fully upgrade things, so it kind of begs the question of whether you'd have gotten more for that outside the event. It's also annoying how the timer resets after upgrading since you don't get anything immediately for upgrading.
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    Then I will ask that you pay closer attention
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    So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trubo View Post
    It's also annoying how the timer resets after upgrading since you don't get anything immediately for upgrading.
    Yeah, this is quite annoying. Specially because it makes no sense that they have added it, it brings nothing to the player other than to annoy it.

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