Is Gil though? I know he's got Clairvoyance EX, and all Grand Caster Candidates have Clairvoyance EX, But I thought he wasn't enough of a mage otherwise to qualify.Originally Posted by GDB
He's the Rectangle that isn't a square, so to speak.
Is Gil though? I know he's got Clairvoyance EX, and all Grand Caster Candidates have Clairvoyance EX, But I thought he wasn't enough of a mage otherwise to qualify.
He's the Rectangle that isn't a square, so to speak.
Didn't an interlude (forget if his Caster version, Archer version, or someone else like Merlin's) specifically state he was a candidate?
Cu Alter is an A because not only he is the Berserker with the second highest survivability with Heracles obviously being the best, his NP is now upgraded and removes all defensive buffs before damage. This last effect is honestly really good, so many bosses that spam dodge/invincibility/defense/damage cut get screwed by this (not looking forward to fight a boss version of Cu Alter that has that upgrade). Having Guts + 2 times dodge with no duration is also just downright ridiculous, it helps a lot when you don't have to worry about your Berserker dying. And I wouldn't be surprised if Appmedia took the fact that nowadays Koyanskaya exists in the equation too. I still hope they give him a damage buff in one of his skills just so his damage is higher for his normal cards without relying on supports, but I would definitely pick him over a lot of Berserkers in this game for a lot of CQs. The only reason I don't use him anymore is because I just like using Godjuna a lot more, not because he's no longer good for today's content.
Iskandar though, no. His kit is barebones tbh. You pretty much have to carry him in CQs if he's your main damage dealer, as he has no survival and none of his skills help him deal with any gimmick whatsoever, he can only buff his damage which IMO doesn't help him that much for the content he's meant for. I'm pretty sure they will eventually give him a 50% NP charge so he can farm and just call it a day for him. Sigurd can be good maybe against dragons, specially if he has class advantage, but as far as ST Sabers go there's better options nowadays IMO, and that cooldown in his Mana Burst skill is horrendous and needs to be given a cooldown reduction buff, 9-7 because of the Guts is dumb when the Buster Up only lasts one turn, and the Guts has 3 turn duration, ffs at least give it 5 turn.
Tamamo is D for farming probably because if people is going to pick between Castoria or Tamamo, 10 out of 10 times they will pick Castoria, then just put Paracelsus/Asclepius/Helena for less party cost. It's a case of a unit being so broken on what she does that using something else for Arts farming is just gimping yourself on purpose, specially when you are never going to find an occassion in which there's no Castoria in the support list. I wouldn't put her at D rank though, she still can be used for farming if you have her.
It's a feature I wish they would just add. Same for choosing the NP even if you're NP sealed. But I don't think they will add this feature here, probably in FGO2 if it happens.
Last edited by Oz1337; December 3rd, 2021 at 06:05 PM.
Tbh though, I recommend you don't pay attention to Appmedia tier list. When Castoria appeared they pretty much rated almost all Arts units at the top, and I'm sorry to say, but if the whole reason you're going to put Vlad at the top is because you're always going to use him with double Castoria, I don't think this really means he's good, it just means that Castoria is so broken that it actually allows meh units to work.
Yeah, but Oz I mean that they have Cu Alter rated at an A for FARMING
Oh. I thought those three were for CQ stuff.
Errr, I suppose they are taking into account Koyanskaya/Oberon, but then again that pretty much applies to any Buster Servant at this point, so I guess it's the same issue with Castoria release, they just went crazy with Buster Servants because of those two. The day we get a Quick support similar to Castoria, which I'm sure it will happen, they will probably go crazy again and declare all Quick Servants to be better than others.
Last edited by Oz1337; December 3rd, 2021 at 06:36 PM.
Don't think so, people just like to assume Gil's one.
It makes more sense in context rather than just raw letter grades. The new evaluation criteria excludes Order Change and de-emphasizes system play, so Tamamo makes sense in D. Cu/Sigurd/Iskander's ranking sounds high, but it's reasonable when you look at what's below them.
I'm still holding out hope for Tamamo's NP Charge. As the only SSR Caster without it, it's the likeliest buff for her.
the right column is farming right? google translate is eating shit today for some reason
this is so stupid holy kek
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More like "looping", and it doesn't necessarily mean for farming purpose (just np loop)
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I guess Kintoki is useful when farming node has single enemy wave.
With Koyanskaya and Oberon he pretty much turns any raid farming boss into a joke, even if you put a full Bond EXP team. I'm sure there's some video about the Guda Guda raid bosses with Kintoki showing his power.
周回 is what JP calls farming, because you literally "circle around" to the same node over and over. As opposed to 攻略 which is just "attack/capture" which has the implication of doing something once and you're done.
Him, Kama, and Kintoki (Rider) are the best ones for those 90+ that have a single enemy in Wave 2 since they still do decent damage without being funneled direct damage buffs. Those with 30% batteries would be next but are trickier to use as your AoE Servant needs to be able to hit 100% without one of the 20% batteries offered by Saber Caster.
Going with the full history of the term, 攻略 was originally a war term meaning conquering an enemy territory, and started being used frequently as a short for "the strategy used for 攻略". Later RPGs became a thing and this was the natural term to use for clearing a dungeon since medieval war settings were the genre standard in the early days, and as video game lingo evolved, clearing anything with a boss battle at the end could be called a 攻略. Incidentally, walkthroughs are also called 攻略 because of the aforementioned strategy angle of the word.
so we farm nodes, while they are drifting in circles
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Gil was neither confirmed or deconfirmed as a Grand Caster candidate in Babylonia since it's worded so vaguely. I saw people talking about some pamphlet related to the Solomon movie confirming it in more concrete terms but as I haven't seen it I can't speak for its veracity.
Repetition is much like going in a circle, I suppose.
Okay, so when you add the context of system play being de-emphasized and order change not being considered then I can understand why Tamamo's farming value would drop off as that is where she performs best. But I really can't see how that makes those other guys As when in practice I know that I'm about 100x more likely to use Tamamo for farming than fucking Cu Alter.
And the argument that it makes sense when you look at those below them doesn't really seem to hold much water either. Bradamante is placed at B rank, so below them, when she actually has loop potential and a targetable battery. She is infinitely more useful in a farming comp than those dudes.
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