Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[fumei]

yeah

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Also apparently a pop-up cafe showed silhouettes for more anniversary CEs

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Dead image

[Deathhappens]

To me SMT vs Persona case is less extreme because it's not involved a gacha game (yet). And SMT did get a gacha game (SMT Dx2 Liberation, it's actually quite decent) AND a dead MMO that faithful players still play on private server (SMT Imagine) while Persona did not get anything (until P5 gacha cashgrab). So I'd say SMT fans still get an edge in that regard. Persona attracted a lot of the more mainstream otakus and that led to Atlus trying to pander to them too.

tbf FGO definitely brought lore expansions to the Nasuverse, and that is a positive. It also helps attracting a lot more fans (be it good or bad) to Typemoon. So it's not like FGO destroyed TM, no. The main factor that caused people to hate it even before the whole slowing other projects IMO is the gacha. Even if you're AAA quality games like Mihoyo's, the gacha stain will always bring a lot of negativity, because it is predatory and will drag any game's reputation down, regardless of how good the game might be, period. You then add that up with existing resentment of favoritism for Fate as an IP that skyrocket TM's popularity in the mainstream otaku culture, add the delay of various TM projects, and you get a fandom split into pieces.

Imagine was actually good, that's why. Or at least it was appropriately weird, and that's good for an SMT MMO.

[Noa]

Dead image

weird, I can see it. Oh well, reupload

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[Daemon]

>Alternative Churrasco
Scathach is stealing my culture???

Also of course Tiamat is Mother's homemade

[TomPen94]

It's okay she learned it from Kuku

[Deathhappens]

weird, I can see it. Oh well, reupload

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I could also see it, fwiw.

[Comun]

I can see both too.

[Noa]

Well I also went back and edited the original one to use the new image

[madarra]

i could see it when you first posted it

[rxrx]

Not too interested in Vtuber, but did heard that they are hot in JAP and good for publicity. Until they cause trouble that is.

[dualblade]

You then add that up with existing resentment of favoritism for Fate as an IP that skyrocket TM's popularity in the mainstream otaku culture, add the delay of various TM projects, and you get a fandom split into pieces.

This specifically is what seems to be the biggest problem FGO is to people who had already been fans prior to its release. I'm a newer fan myself but from what I've seen, while Fate already overshadowed Tsuki side of things FGO absolutely magnified it, not helped the confirmation that TsukiRe was delayed due to it. Which makes Mahoyo and TsukiRe finally coming out AND doing well financially a real good thing. Regardless of whether FGO continues once part 2 is done it does seem like there is less to worry about it being the absolute focus now.

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For Pekora, my understanding is she is not only the top Vtuber period, she is also one of the top streamers in general as well at least in Japan.

[TetsuoS2]

Think they just got convinced by what they gained by allowing her to stream part 1.

[Kamera]

I've found my new favorite FGO schizo theoryposter on twitter

[Deathhappens]

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For Pekora, my understanding is she is not only the top Vtuber period, she is also one of the top streamers in general as well at least in Japan.

Ok but counterpoint: vtubers are cringe

[Noa]

I've found my new favorite FGO schizo theoryposter on twitter

but what does it mean?

[ResidentSeagull]

Ok but counterpoint: vtubers are cringe

They may be cringe, but that makes them free.

[rxrx]

Seeing the publicity the vtuber brings，imagine the anniversary unit being her. Also makes her the first collab outside of TM‘s works. Heard DW wanted to do collab with vtuber for their Sakura Taisen mobage，but it died too fast.

[AmADo VII]

FGO did several outside collabs. most of them are non-game related events in Japan.

[rxrx]

FGO did several outside collabs. most of them are non-game related events in Japan.

I know. I guess I should be more specific of her being game related collab. Imagine Nasu writing her as a meta character to poke fun at players and the lore of FGO.

[Kamera]

but what does it mean?

See the rest of his profile and you'll get it. It's grand theory type stuff, but instead of focusing on Lev (cringe Watsonian), he's focusing on Romani/Solomon himself, doing deep dive into Kabbalah and medieval occultism (based Doylist).