Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Trubo]

Japanese games are usually cruel with rounding.

As a Pokemon player, you get used to it.

To the point that they round below what a normal floor function would do?

[Rafflesiac]

To the point that they round below what a normal floor function would do?

Yes.

[Soire]

If we're just considering level 20 CE:

• Kaleidoscope
  
  • +80% starting NP gauge
  • +786 Attack
  
  
• Halloween Princess (fully ascended)
  
  • +50% starting NP gauge
  • +393 Attack / 589 HP (same stats as Prisma Cosmos and Moonlight Festival)
  • +20% NP damage
  
  

So using the Halloween Princess (fully ascended) yields -393 Attack, -30% starting NP gauge, +589 HP, and +20% NP damage versus using Kaleidoscope.

With a level 20 Kaleidoscope, no buffs to NP or attack, and neutral attribute and class modifiers, your current Altera (assuming you have a level 1 NP, can't tell from your signature) will deal [13824*3*1.5*0.9*0.23] to [13824*3*1.5*1.1*0.23] damage to each target, or 12877 to 15738 damage to each target.

With a level 20 Halloween Princess, no buffs to NP or attack, and neutral attribute and class modifiers, your current Altera (assuming you have a level 1 NP, can't tell from your signature) will deal [13434*3*1.5*0.9*0.23*1.2] to [13434*3*1.5*1.1*0.23*1.2] damage to each target, or 15016 to 18353 damage to each target.

Difference in damage is about 2500/target. If you're fighting a single enemy then the Kaleidoscope is likely the better option since that damage is likely made up for with Altera's normal attacks. Against a wave of enemies then the Halloween Princess is likely the better choice.

Of the Servants you mentioned I would probably give the Halloween Princess to Emiya instead of Altera since Archers lose 5% of their total attack for damage purposes due to their class modifier (0.95x). Altera then would use Kaleidoscope.

Edit: One thing to keep in mind is that you can actually level your Halloween Princess up to 1000 Attack / 1500 HP, so eventually it would provide more raw damage than a level 20 Kaleidoscope. However that won't happen until well past level 50 I imagine, assuming a linear CE scale.

Well when I do a Arts combo with Attila in the last position it can charge to 95% with Hallowen and because I have Waver and Emiya it is pretty easy to get those chains, and the team in my signature it is only to show my gold units, Emiya have formalcraft and Waver have a fully ascended projection magic, but I might give hallowen or heavens fell to Emiya so he can do more damage.

My sub-party is Lancer Eliza or Caster Eliza + Leyline and Hassan.

And thanks for the answer.

[Soire]

And if someone know if the extra damage that Waver gives to Emiya, the one that act like divinity, it is added to his NP?

Because if it is, the extra dmg that the lvl 10 buff do, 500, can help a lot of NPs that do multiple hits.

Hum? It didn't update my last post, sorry for the double post.

[Trubo]

And if someone know if the extra damage that Waver gives to Emiya, the one that act like divinity, it is added to his NP?

Because if it is, the extra dmg that the lvl 10 buff do, 500, can help a lot of NPs that do multiple hits.

Hum? It didn't update my last post, sorry for the double post.

According to Kyte's damage formula the bonus static damage stuff gets added after the normal damage calculation, so it should just be X+500. Think this also allows a unit to damage an enemy that would normally take 1 damage against due to high defensive modifiers.

And yeah, I had a similar thought with Gilgamesh. If it's per hit then Gilgamesh can get a bonus 4000 damage at any level from having a fully ascended Jack o'Lantern and doing a Brave Chain.

[LegalLoliLover]

I know that one does not play Fate series games for their historical accuracy, but didn't Mata Hari have smaller boobs historically?

[Trubo]

I know that one does not play Fate series games for their historical accuracy, but didn't Mata Hari have smaller boobs historically?

A simple google search would show that yes, Koyama boobs is just Koyama boobing.

[Rafflesiac]

I know that one does not play Fate series games for their historical accuracy, but didn't Mata Hari have smaller boobs historically?

Flat as a board.

[LegalLoliLover]

Yep, at this point, everyone will have at least 1 historical gripe with the Fate series. This is mine.

[Bobin]

It's even a particular insecurity of hers, but at least the boobs look nice.

[Zork Knight]

Jesus Christ, new gorilla is hard. Assassin Dragon followed by Tamamo is just cruel.

[Gallereon]

The grail(Koyama) was nice and gave her bigger boobs.

[VendingMachine]

Yep, at this point, everyone will have at least 1 historical gripe with the Fate series. This is mine.

I guess having an actual picture of the real person makes It more intolerable than normal.

[GDB]

Assassin Dragon followed by Tamamo is just cruel.

"Oh, you didn't have trouble with Medea by swarming her with a Rider team? Yeah, that aint gonna fly this time. Thanks."

-DelightWorks

[Gallereon]

ON second thought, those boobs are probably going to cause some major back problems.

[solopy567]

I see plenty of people use Hassan as a support unit. I understand it is because of his high chance of insta-death NP.

Is it really worth to raise one?

[hinode]

Yeah, skipping the last batch of guerilla quests. I have enough pumpkins to buy out everything I care about plus 100 more for conversion, that's plenty. I could beat this with some actual effort into team construction, but I'd rather spend my time farming exp and waiting to see what the 50 AP quest will be like.

[Zork Knight]

"Oh, you didn't have trouble with Medea by swarming her with a Rider team? Yeah, that aint gonna fly this time. Thanks."

-DelightWorks

She better have a decent chance of dropping the CE.

[Trubo]

"Oh, you didn't have trouble with Medea by swarming her with a Rider team? Yeah, that aint gonna fly this time. Thanks."

-DelightWorks

Use 3x Casters as main and have 3x Riders as Reserve. Problem solved.

[VendingMachine]

"Oh, you didn't have trouble with Medea by swarming her with a Rider team? Yeah, that aint gonna fly this time. Thanks."

-DelightWorks

I guess this is the first time this game has approached whale territory since launch.