Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Gabriulio]

I can only get 15...

[Rue]

We do. That's the new 5* Event CE that can be bought in the Da Vinci shop using normal chocolate.

Oooh, the Kiyohime "eat me" route. 'Tis glorious then.

[Spartacus]

Went out to see a last full show movie & returned to see indefinite maintenance. Oh hey, our dearly missed regular free quartz will come again.


So how accurate is this?


Wait...w-we don't get any Kouhai choco?

Kouhai choco confirmed plot related.

[Fujiri]

I can get 25 out of 40. All in all, not a bad number.

15 out of 40 T_T
now I regret burning Boobica

[GundamFSN]

I can only get 15...

17 for me, but afaik you're still kinda new to the game. It kinda beats me who has been trapped in this hell day 1.

I shall have my revenge on white day.

[Aozaki-desu]

19 on my main

11? On my alt a think

[aconite]

20 for me.

[Hachibi]

So that mean 14 for me.

[Altaris]

That Nero Bride skillset is more broken than a female character in a ahegao doujin

DW decided to pull another Okita for the cash again, I guess the last few gachas didn't earn them much ehh ?

[GundamFSN]

This cracks me up.

Fou: Don't you know? That's when I'll start my marathon!

[Huitante]

17 for me, but afaik you're still kinda new to the game. It kinda beats me who has been trapped in this hell day 1.

I shall have my revenge on white day.

And then White Day was about master giving presents to each of their female Servants.

Even though it's unrealistic, I'm still looking forward to Lancelot confessing his love to me with his finest stomach gurgle. To hell with this maintenance, I so want to check out subtitles for his summoning line right now.


I've dumped a ticket right into oblivion maintenance, really wonder about it's fate

[Trubo]

Not really though. The NP rate increase isn't large enough to decrease the number of attacks needed to go from 0% to 100% gauge when you compare it to other NP rate up skills. The Attack/Star buff is neat, but it may as well be one turn only since the odds of getting 2x Brave Chains from it are pretty low. The heal is bleh, I'd rather have Santa Alter's (cause the Star buff is better than the DR) or Jack's (cause 1 turn shorter CD more than makes up for 500 less healing).

[GDB]

The heal is bleh, I'd rather have Santa Alter's (cause the Star buff is better than the DR)

Not if you use it on the 4-star Nero.

[Altaris]

her attack buff skills is better than both kintoki's monstrous strength AND Attila Star Emblem EX. How the fuck is 30% attack for 3 FUCKING turns at a 8 turns cooldown at level 1 balanced ? And its targetable meaning she can throw it on Kintoki/Attila/Karna and just watch the world burn.

The heal also gives 10-30% def buff for 3 turns as well. It's extremely good.

Only her 1st skill is quite situational

[Aozaki-desu]

How's star buff better than DR? How many servants can utilize star buff properly? 5, maybe 10 at most. Trubo sure has some weird priorities.

[Ries]

Don't Elizabeth have a 15% 3 turns attack buff that raise the entire party attack? and Gilgamesh have the same skill for 20% entire party for 3 turns, looks better on my opinion ._. increase you overall damage

if Nero Bride its single target i don't see it that monstrous broken

[Aozaki-desu]

Don't Elizabeth have a 15% 3 turns attack buff that raise the entire party attack? and Gilgamesh have the same skill for 20% entire party for 3 turns, looks better on my opinion ._. increase you overall damage

if Nero Bride its single target i don't see it that monstrous broken

You really should go and check gameplay profiles before you post something like that.

[Laserman]

Went out to see a last full show movie & returned to see indefinite maintenance. Oh hey, our dearly missed regular free quartz will come again.


So how accurate is this?


Wait...w-we don't get any Kouhai choco?

Nobu gives you a chocolate skull lol. It's one of those gifts that make you say, "Well at least she thought about me."
Is that supposed to be a cake that Bride Nero gives you? I can't tell.

[Trubo]

Just for an example, I'm going to post NP charge rates for Scathach at NP Charge Rates of 0%, 20% (Nobu level 1), and 35% (Nero Bride level 1).

Spoiler:

0%

Scathach	A1	A2	A3	B2, B3	Q1	Q2	Q3	Extra
With Arts first card, no Crit	8.52	11.715	14.91	4.26	XXXX	3.55	4.26	9.94
Without Arts First Card, no Crit	XXXX	9.585	12.78	XXXX	1.42	2.13	2.84	4.97
With Arts first card, Crits	17.04	23.43	29.82	8.52	XXXX	7.1	8.52	XXXX
Without Arts First Card, Crits	XXXX	19.17	25.56	XXXX	2.84	4.26	5.68	XXXX

AQQ, no crits	26.27
ABQ, no crits	26.98
ABB, no crits	26.98
AQB, no crits	26.27

20%

Scathach	A1	A2	A3	B2, B3	Q1	Q2	Q3	Extra
With Arts first card, no Crit	10.224	14.058	17.892	5.112	XXXX	4.26	5.112	11.928
Without Arts First Card, no Crit	XXXX	11.502	15.336	XXXX	1.704	2.556	3.408	5.964
With Arts first card, Crits	20.448	28.116	35.784	10.224	XXXX	8.52	10.224	XXXX
Without Arts First Card, Crits	XXXX	23.004	30.672	XXXX	3.408	5.112	6.816	XXXX

AQQ, no crits	31.524
ABQ, no crits	32.376
ABB, no crits	32.376
AQB, no crits	31.524

35%

Scathach	A1	A2	A3	B2, B3	Q1	Q2	Q3	Extra
With Arts first card, no Crit	11.502	15.81525	20.1285	5.751	XXXX	4.7925	5.751	13.419
Without Arts First Card, no Crit	XXXX	12.93975	17.253	XXXX	1.917	2.8755	3.834	6.7095
With Arts first card, Crits	23.004	31.6305	40.257	11.502	XXXX	9.585	11.502	XXXX
Without Arts First Card, Crits	XXXX	25.8795	34.506	XXXX	3.834	5.751	7.668	XXXX

AQQ, no crits	35.4645
ABQ, no crits	36.423
ABB, no crits	36.423
AQB, no crits	35.4645

At 0% NP Charge rate it takes 4 Brave Chains to go from 0% to 100%. To drop this down to 3 Brave Chains then she'd need to be hit 6-7 times, which against any decently leveled enemy will only happen and keep Scathach alive if fighting against Archers, weak enemies, Master evade/heal skill, or a healer on the team.

At 20% NP Charge rate it takes slightly more than 3 Brave Chains to go from 0% to 100%. Getting hit twice guarantees that it will only take 3 Brave Chains to go from 0% to 100%.

At 35% NP Charge rate you only need 3 Brave Chains to go from 0% to 100%. However, like the 0% case, she'd need to be hit 6-7 times to drop this down to 2 Brave Chains, which really isn't feasible outside of the scenarios I've already described.

Outside of Brave Chains it can be a bit more attractive to have that better NP Charge rate, but meh, at that point you're better off running more Arts cards to try and get an Arts Chain.

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How's star buff better than DR? How many servants can utilize star buff properly? 5, maybe 10 at most. Trubo sure has some weird priorities.

Because DR doesn't mean anything if it still takes the same number of hits to kill you with or without the DR. I've already provided an in-depth explanation earlier in the thread, so feel free to look that up.

Edit: I talked more about comparing DR to avoid/invincibility, but you can still gather that LIMITED DURATION DR is not that valuable against most enemies.

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her attack buff skills is better than both kintoki's monstrous strength AND Attila Star Emblem EX. How the fuck is 30% attack for 3 FUCKING turns at a 8 turns cooldown at level 1 balanced ? And its targetable meaning she can throw it on Kintoki/Attila/Karna and just watch the world burn.

I never said it was bad, just that it lasting 3 turns is silly when you only get 1-2 turns of any real use out of it. It's definitely her best skill, but, compared to an equal % of type-boosting skills on NP, it's worse than Quick Up (1.3*0.8=1.04 < 1.1), equal to Arts Up (1.3=1.3), and better than Buster Up (1.3*1.5=1.95 > 1.8).

The heal also gives 10-30% def buff for 3 turns as well. It's extremely good.

Again, DR is meaningless if it doesn't increase the number of hits required to kill the unit.

[mewarmo990]

That Nero Bride skillset is more broken than a female character in a ahegao doujin

DW decided to pull another Okita for the cash again, I guess the last few gachas didn't earn them much ehh ?

Archer: "It's not that we don't have enough, but more is always better."