Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Swiftstar88]

I mean it says the CEs are event-limited right there above the list of CEs.

I mean, I might be blind, but I'm probably blind.

[Trubo]

I mean it says the CEs are event-limited right there above the list of CEs.

Thanks

[Aozaki-desu]

I think i'm gonna get +10% all cards solely for Shiki to use. Its probably not really that great on other servants.

[Trubo]

^ In that same line of thinking, I'm tempted to get that Astolfo/Arash/Hyde CE for Marie.

[You]

It's time to pick up mah bois.

[rxrx]

It might work pretty well with NR I think.

[You]

i'm late

[manafusion]

But every Crit-related CE so far has had some amount of passive Attack increase. Why change it now for a CE that is actually weaker than other crit-related CEs?

Star Attraction is different from Crit Damage Up or Star Rate Up because it's a complete benefit in and of itself. Slapping it onto a Saber in a Saber team would put her really high in terms of getting those stars. Crit Damage relies on the chance to proc it (not modified or affected) while Star Rate doesn't do anything by itself (stars are still allotted via RNG). Star Attraction just straight up gives you an added benefit of pulling in more stars that you generated, whether it's from skills or from the previous attack. This is why they are, in and of itself, really powerful.

Also, out of all the CEs that have Star Attraction, there is one which also has HP only passive stat bonus: Present for my Master. Why? 100/200% Star Attraction Up and 40/50% HP Recovery Up. Which means that whoever uses it can crit hard and get healed hard. Currently, I'd say it's strong enough to warrant a no-damage effect. As for Sensei & I CE, it's effect is 300% Star Attraction (which is already very good) plus a supercharge of 50% starting NP to get you to where you need to go ASAP. It's a CE that you'd take to a 1/1 Fatal Battle party because you can get the NP off earlier and also crit to recharge your NP faster. Plus the damage gained from 300% Star Attraction. Put it onto a star-generating team and you got a Servant that practically steals sub-30 stars almost all the time.

[Strife ❤️]

Spoiler:

[Renko]

The 10% Arts/Buster/Quick CE.

10 % Arts is good for an ARTS team?

[You]

well damn, Shirou's NP is his Black Hole attack.
Must get....

[Asunder]

Hmm is it just me or would 'Sensei & I' be good for All Terra?

[Mcjon01]

i'm late

Who's the father?

[Trubo]

Star Attraction is different from Crit Damage Up or Star Rate Up because it's a complete benefit in and of itself. Slapping it onto a Saber in a Saber team would put her really high in terms of getting those stars. Crit Damage relies on the chance to proc it (not modified or affected) while Star Rate doesn't do anything by itself (stars are still allotted via RNG). Star Attraction just straight up gives you an added benefit of pulling in more stars that you generated, whether it's from skills or from the previous attack. This is why they are, in and of itself, really powerful.

A Saber team doesn't generate a whole lot of stars though unless you had a Brave Chain the previous turn and used 2-3x Instinct-like skills on the current turn.

Also, out of all the CEs that have Star Attraction, there is one which also has HP only passive stat bonus: Present for my Master. Why? 100/200% Star Attraction Up and 40/50% HP Recovery Up. Which means that whoever uses it can crit hard and get healed hard.

You're right in that I missed the pure HP on that CE, but I would argue to pure HP on it is solely because of the improved healing received.

Currently, I'd say it's strong enough to warrant a no-damage effect. As for Sensei & I CE, it's effect is 300% Star Attraction (which is already very good) plus a supercharge of 50% starting NP to get you to where you need to go ASAP. It's a CE that you'd take to a 1/1 Fatal Battle party because you can get the NP off earlier and also crit to recharge your NP faster. Plus the damage gained from 300% Star Attraction. Put it onto a star-generating team and you got a Servant that practically steals sub-30 stars almost all the time.

Well no, you'd take better starting NP-gauge CEs or taunts if the enemy is likely to kill one of your units in 2-3x turns. In the unlikely case of something like Robespierre, you're better off with card-type, NP damage/charge rate, or star-gen boosting CEs.

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10 % Arts is good for an ARTS team?

Of what's available, probably. I don't know what units you have, and that CE is good on any unit.

[Mcjon01]

A Saber team doesn't generate a whole lot of stars though unless you had a Brave Chain the previous turn and used 2-3x Instinct-like skills on the current turn.

Okita-MHX-Okita

[GDB]

Well no, you'd take better starting NP-gauge CEs or taunts if the enemy is likely to kill one of your units in 2-3x turns. In the unlikely case of something like Robespierre, you're better off with card-type, NP damage/charge rate, or star-gen boosting CEs.

I don't see how you can argue like this while saying 3 turns of anti-divinity or a generic as heck +10% card boost is better. Who cares what the stat boost is if the effect itself is what you want? It's only worth looking at the stat boost of similar cards.

With how much everyone here is praising Kiss Your Hand, you'd think they forgot no one cared about Launch Order or Street Choco Maid. But apparently the combination of Art + Buster makes it amazing?

[Mcjon01]

I don't see how you can argue like this while saying 3 turns of anti-divinity or a generic as heck +10% card boost is better. Who cares what the stat boost is if the effect itself is what you want? It's only worth looking at the stat boost of similar cards.

With how much everyone here is praising Kiss Your Hand, you'd think they forgot no one cared about Launch Order or Street Choco Maid. But apparently the combination of Art + Buster makes it amazing?

Actually it's because Gil, Cu, and Emiya are hot.

[Renko]

Of what's available, probably. I don't know what units you have, and that CE is good on any unit.

My ARTs units are:

Spoiler:

Uncle Vlad and Jeanne as my only SSRs,

EMIYA, CasLiz, and Shiki for SRs,

All 3* Casters and Robin Hood (Saber Gilles doesn't count),

And Andersen.

I'm hoping to get Waver on the 12th.

[R.Lock]

I don't see how you can argue like this while saying 3 turns of anti-divinity or a generic as heck +10% card boost is better. Who cares what the stat boost is if the effect itself is what you want? It's only worth looking at the stat boost of similar cards.

With how much everyone here is praising Kiss Your Hand, you'd think they forgot no one cared about Launch Order or Street Choco Maid. But apparently the combination of Art + Buster makes it amazing?

I have Saber Shiki and Kiss Your Hand is amazing.

[GDB]

Actually it's because Gil, Cu, and Emiya are hot.

That's a perfectly acceptable reason. I'm just seeing a lot of people fawn over the +10% effect rather than the art.