Thread: Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Aozaki really liked Johanna so I'm sure he'll be happy with the news.

    And unrelated but I hate how every battle in LB7 Pt2 is a special party. You gotta keep setting Servants and CEs nonstop.

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    How do i say "Make a way to ascend Craft Essences without needing other copies"?

    This game now has too many CEs that will never see another rateup again, so i would really like to see something like that, even if it is a RP item.

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    "Add alternatives to MLB limited CEs" maybe?

    I'm guessing it could be done with something like Pure Prism to exchange for additional copies, or exchanging mats like with Servants.



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    Resume of the last stream
    Commentaries on Kirei's design as well on the many theme songs from the TVCMs

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    Funny that now we have two SSR Rulers named Joan.

    Wild Mass Guessing on the other SSR Ruler Joan's kit. She might be a Quick support as reference to her supporting Bradamante. And her kit might pay homage on her Master skills during said battle.



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    A Quick-support would be most welcomed, in my opinion. I wouldn't hype my hopes up on that, but...

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    Love how it's barely been half a year since the latest 50% charger quick support and people are still coping for another one to "fix it"

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    Summer Skadi is a v1.1 and not a fix, she just has basic QoL (star bomb/regen, persistent buffs/team buffs instead of def down, a bit more Quick).

    Wanting Quick supports is very reasonable because Arts/Buster don't need new supports.

    * There is no Quick support to enable slowplay/endurance/stall
    * There is no Quick support with team NP battery (Jiang Ziya is not a support and 20 is too low)
    * There is no Quick support with NP strength or NP gain buffs
    * There is no SR Quick support
    * There is no budget Quick support

    Arts & Buster regarding Quick:


    "Alexander has Quick hyuck" is not a budget support. Xu Fu is a budget support. Paracelsus is a budget support. Servants that actually enable something.

    Same rings true for all the Quick SRs with Quick res down and paltry atk. The best "quick" support at SR is S.Lolivinci who isn't even worth running because 20 battery is not the magic number for topping bars off.

    Will Johanna be Quick? Probably not because the last Valentine's Ruler was Quick and the last gacha Ruler was Quick.
    Last edited by Sath; February 4th, 2023 at 09:14 PM.

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    Quick can't be fixed (c)
    And it's not that I personally need it to be "fixed" or anything like that, I'll just appreciate more options other than Skadi and... Well, Skadi.

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    There's no Quick support that will make quick into not Cope Arts at looping and Cope Buster at damage, quick in itself needs to do something different at a baseline, maybe have added benefits for getting over 50 stars. Also I don't think we're gonna go with defensive slowplay with quick as that's an arts thing, and np gain on a quick support would just serve to make it a bit less of a Cope Arts but not fix quick.

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    Just upgrade Daikokuten's first skill to be team Quick up and second skill to be targetable and there's your NP Gain/Sustain *4 Quick support.

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    I'm just thankful for now that the Quick mechanic has been improved. +20% for Crit Chance on first Quick card and Mighty Chain helps Critting more consistent. Can't wait for it to get into NA.



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    Ironically Tlaloc would've been pretty good at supporting with quick and even a small bit of arts if her skills were all teamwide or targetable

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    I'm still disappointed that Okki went Quick/Buster on NP instead of Quick/Arts.

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    What the fuck is she gonna do with her ONE (1) Buster card anyways!?
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    Quick in general have a lot of units that could be great support but suffers because their most useful skills can only used on themselves. Bartholomew, Rikyu, Daikokuten, etc.

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    I think we need an actual incentive to use Quick aside from "it's my waifu's color so I need to make her work even if I'm just playing a shittier buster/arts comp". You don't get better than Artoria Caster (therefore, arts) in sustain, and it loops better than quick at a baseline. If you have awkward nodes or just want really high numbers, Buster is your go to. There's no real option for Quick. They need to establish a reason why you'd even play quick in the first place.

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    My first answer would've been to generate stars, but then it's redundant now with stargen and starbomb in CEs, skills, and NPs, and passives Foreigners have.



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    With Buster, you get raw damage, with Arts you got NP loops that ranges from providing more damage to crazy sustains. The problem with Quick is that the only thing they provide that others don't, Crit Stars, are pretty much useless past 50 stars. This renders buffs like Star Bomb, Star Gen or Star Absorb absolutely useless. Another thing that doesn't help is that Crit Stars resets the next turn, compare this to NP gauge which doesn't. I think one way to fix it is to implement more mechanics like the Kukulkan skills we saw, or Astraea's third skill. Any means to convert the useless excess stars into something more useful. Make it so that the Stars can be used as some sort of currency in battle for more buffs.
    Last edited by Kamera; February 4th, 2023 at 09:46 PM.

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    The "schtick" of Quick was star generation, but even that was f-d up with 2030/Merlin's NP/etc.
    Honestly, sometimes FGO (gameplay wise) is like a whole comprehensive guide on "how NOT to design your game properly".

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