Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Petrikow]

What does Salt River do that 2 doesn't?

Keep to schedule.

[Synaptic Star]

When did Salt River leave and 2 replace him? If it's around the time Lostbelt 4 was taking a long time to come out, I can understand what you mean.

[Comun]

Salt River directed Observer in the Timeless Temple and Epic of Remnant. 2 directed Cosmos in the Lostbelt and is directing Ordeal Call.

[Petrikow]

When did Salt River leave and 2 replace him? If it's around the time Lostbelt 4 was taking a long time to come out, I can understand what you mean.

2-san is called that because he took over for Part 2, so after EoR.

Salt River directed Observer in the Timeless Temple and Epic of Remnant. 2 directed Cosmos in the Lostbelt and is directing Ordeal Call.

Ordeal Call is just Cosmos in the Lostbelt...

[Synaptic Star]

So 2 managed to keep the schedule for one year then it feel apart.

[Trubo]

He left at the end of EoR I think, though there were still projects he had oversaw that hadn't released yet for another year or so, such as Summer 4 and Saber Wars 2 I believe. Was pretty obvious by 2020 that Kannou sucked ass at keeping a schedule against Nasu, which was hilarious because Kannou had said something around the end of 2019 that there was still plenty of material that hadn't been released to last another 2 years, then they burned through it all within a few months given how slow stuff became then.

Edit: Huh, thought Shiokawa had his hand in stuff as far out as Summer 4, maybe it was only Summer 3.

[manafusion]

My main hope is actually that skin that Gil had. And give him an animation update while they're at it. But nah, that's probably too much.

Nebuchadnezzar II.5? Yeah, that's a cool one for CasGil.

[rxrx]

Wasn't it said that 2 didn't have a good track record?

[Noa]

Nebuchadnezzar II.5? Yeah, that's a cool one for CasGil.

Agreed I'd like to see that as a costume.

[VTKajin]

I think if/when mobile gets an SSR welfare, Olga or Romani would be the logical choices. Draco was the big focus of Arcade, and it makes sense to keep at least her exclusive there. Though the idea of welfare Mother Harlot is interesting, if unlikely.

My theory is that it'll actually be welfare Sita. Both her and Setanta only have the one form, but with Sita, there's also the curse of separation. I think it will be a part of the story and actively require the player to do something in the story to break it and get Sita, rather than simply getting her in the gacha. Then again I suspect they don't care about it in the end and we'd be able to get her and Rama together with no fanfare. Plus if they did keep her skills the same as Rama's, people would be more accepting of it on a welfare.

My main hope is actually that skin that Gil had. And give him an animation update while they're at it. But nah, that's probably too much.

I do want Harlot, but only as a Rider. Tiamat as a Berserker would've been preferred but that ship has sailed. I do wish they'd make up their mind if they want the Arcade servants to be the same class like Tiamat, or new classes like girlin.

Definitely wanted a Tiamat variant, but alas.

Take the Apocrypha event. It didn't have to be collabed and the remaining Apocrypha servants can be given elsewhere just like all the previous Apocrypha servants. However, I'm sure that for people who like Apocrypha they were glad that the collab happened because the event was a nice epilogue for that story.

Now imagine that the Arcade event had the same quality as the Apocrypha event. I will split this into two possibilities:
1) The Arcade event's is a light heartened, probably gag, story where our Chaldea meets the Arcade Chaldea and wacky hijinks ensure. Since it's light hearted there's no Beast other than perhaps a namedrop. That could be alright except I haven't seen anyone who's looking forward to this event's story think it will end up like this. Maybe people will still be happy regardless since they get Tiamat. But that's what I mean when I say that one of the only reasons is that anyone is excited is the exclusives. Even with a story that no one had hoped for( as far as I can tell), they still like the event because they got Tiamat.
2) It will be a Beast story. If Beast Nero is defeated as easily as Darnic's grudge though, then we have a contender for lamest Beast. Unless that's already the standard for defeating Beasts in which case why are we still hyped for them?

Now maybe the story(and also gameplay and mechanics) will be very good, worthy of being a Beast story. You seem think that's likely because the writer will give a shit. I have ask though, do they? Beast's Nero story in Arcade is very barebones. It seems like none of the writers had a strong story they wanted to tell with her. It was foreshadowed for so long, not because they were they were building up something massive, but because none of the writers were ever bothered to write it. Like Prototype, it's something they care about enough to reference but not enough to write. Eventually Arcade went on an exclusive streak and they threw Nero in because what other opportunity will they be bothered? Now if the assumptions I made are true, then the writer doesn't give a shit and a strong story shouldn't be expected. Alternatively, they do care a lot about Beast Nero and the poor story there was simply due to Arcade's story limitations. That does display clearly the lack of artistic reasons for Arcade getting that plot. Arcade is a thief and they going to get rewarded for that by having more effort put into its event than any event other than SERAPH can dream of.


What does Salt River do that 2 doesn't?

We know the writers of Arcade's story: Nasu and Sakurai. It's likely less that they didn't give a shit and more that Arcade's format just didn't lend itself to great detail. However, Nasu clearly wrote Tiamat's profile and Sakurai Draco's, so we'll see what kind of balance they strike with the collab.

As I said before, I suspect this will be a bridge between Arcade and fighting VI/G later, so while I anticipate we'll deal with Sodom in some way, it might not be a big cinematic event. What I do hope for is the detail from Nasu about Nero that Arcade did not provide, and I'll keep my expectations for this collab at that. In a way, a bit like Tunguska (which I like more than most), which funny enough was also written by Sakurai, but without Nasu.

As for Prototype copium, I realize it sounds silly at this point, but there's no room for dealing with G and Manaka in this event based on the sheer number of units we could possibly anticipate from Arcade. Call me crazy! I just think it's inevitable at this rate.

[Rafflesiac]

As for Prototype copium, I realize it sounds silly at this point, but there's no room for dealing with G and Manaka in this event based on the sheer number of units we could possibly anticipate from Arcade. Call me crazy! I just think it's inevitable at this rate.

Okay honey, let's get you to bed.

[Daemon]

You can't convince me Sakurai even remembers Prototype exists.

[VTKajin]

[OnesFleetingGlory]

Not that it has to be done by Sakurai. In fact, I wish someone else took over after how she wrote Fragments. I still want Proto Gil and Perseus.

[VTKajin]

I do wonder if Sakurai's dibs extends to Prototype proper, as well, because a collab about 666 would presumably be set after Prototype. Nasu's working on Red Garden but still probably has ample time before Antarctica is out to write an event on his own, too.

EDIT: Then again, considering how she's helped with a lot of Extra-adjacent stories despite only doing Extella, I suppose Nasu would enlist her help with anything Prototype-adjacent.

[Daemon]

A writer will probably want to work on something of their own creation rather than a fanfic sequel of Sakurai's fanfic of Nasu's discarded fanfic drafts. I doubt he himself has any interest in revisiting his old drafts of a novel he already wrote, and Sakurai herself shows very minimal interest in her own Prototype characters, honestly.

[OnesFleetingGlory]

Then he shouldn't have made a whole Beast-centric plot revolving around a Proto character, and is still a loose end with the addition of S and G.

[VTKajin]

Yeah, Manaka is inextricably tied to 666, which, regardless of whether VI is simply S and G, or also has an R and L (still don't buy this interpretation at all), will have to be dealt with eventually. If they're really that disinterested, they can phone it in I guess lol.

[Daemon]

And so, nothing of value was lost.

Yeah, Manaka is inextricably tied to 666, which, regardless of whether VI is simply S and G, or also has an R and L (still don't buy this interpretation at all), will have to be dealt with eventually. If they're really that disinterested, they can phone it in I guess lol.

If Arcade isn't them phoning in the Arthur/Beast 6 subplot I don't know what is. I can't tell if it was a half assed attempt at trying to make Arcade more interesting for fans or if they just genuinely don't care about beast 6 and threw half of it anywhere they could to get it out of the way.

[OnesFleetingGlory]

Basically Tunguska all over again.