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    The other main thing I think is that retiring the existing cast gives room for a much bolder Part 2 finale so that would be a net good I think.

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    This discussion makes me sad for the amount of characters who could be interesting in other stories but have to stay gudalocked or else TM has to suffer through otaku rage.

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    There are some characters who I don't think could particularly work outside of the framework established in the game (Mash, Oberon and Castoria for example) but otherwise a lot would probably just suffer from the Artoria special (something something their story is already over) without the poster girl privilege to get a million alts to compensate.

    Someone like Morgan would probably be improved by giving her a master with an actual personality who can actually have stronger disagreements with her though

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnlimitedBladeWorks View Post
    The other main thing I think is that retiring the existing cast gives room for a much bolder Part 2 finale so that would be a net good I think.
    Kill off Mash for realsies this time

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    I get what you're saying but Morgan is a really bad example for this. Her entire character is centered around stuff from Lostbelt 6 and the context surrounding it.

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    Easy way to resolve this, just make the new protag literally (You). No avatar design at all, all 1st person like Azur Lane/Blue Archive the other gacha trash. Otaku won't be mad that Servants say I love you directly.
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    Or make an actual video game instead of a gambling simulator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catastor View Post
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    Or make an actual video game instead of a gambling simulator.
    It's not like it's impossible for a gacha game to have a real protagonist. It's just, the variety of characters you can charm and befriend is to such a degree that any FGO protagonist couldn't ever be someone with real opinions outside of "I want to help everyone!"



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    Well yeah, that's a writing limitation as a result of making a game where you can have unrequited romance friendship with all units that players potentially paid tens to hundreds of real world dollars to obtain. The generic nice person is the only trait that can function with that. But at least with Azur Lane you can reciprocate and marry as many characters as you want. With FGO is it's all but guaranteed doomed to have Fujimaru end with no romance. I'm not saying TM should allow haremshit in FGO, screw that. But go all in on power of bonds/friendship instead. Higashide's males already do that and are pretty popular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnlimitedBladeWorks View Post
    I get what you're saying but Morgan is a really bad example for this. Her entire character is centered around stuff from Lostbelt 6 and the context surrounding it.
    I'm referring to whether the character has a particular dynamic tied to Guda that can't be replicated with a new character. Whatever context Morgan has in LB6 isn't Guda dependent because they have no dynamic within the story and barely have one after.

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    Morgan, Melusine, and recently Tlaloc are just jarring since they were enemies. Only Kuku is justified somewhat.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Catastor View Post
    Easy way to resolve this, just make the new protag literally (You). No avatar design at all, all 1st person like Azur Lane/Blue Archive the other gacha trash. Otaku won't be mad that Servants say I love you directly.
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    Or make an actual video game instead of a gambling simulator.
    IMO, blank self-inserts only work if you're allowed to act however you want. Otherwise, better just have an avatar design imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnesFleetingGlory View Post
    Morgan, Melusine, and recently Tlaloc are just jarring since they were enemies. Only Kuku is justified somewhat.
    I'm so and so on the matter. I can understand the logic of not following the potential romance arcs of an antagonist while they're an antagonist and "reading between the lines" of the progression in bond lines is part of the appeal of the whole thing. That said it also makes it easy to just imagine a completely different character who could achieve the same results (well maybe not for Melusine, that one is just contrived all around)

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    You're asking if an author who has huge giantess fetish since Tsukihime days if he'll go for another shot.

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    I'm pretty sure Kazuradrop will also have some giantess fetish because of her Bug Space, so if she gets released this year that's one guaranteed Servant to fill another slot.

    Btw, this year Nasu has gone all out with this fetish, I didn't realise until this twitter was posted but that sure is a lot of them.

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    Let's say that Nasu is very, very deprived when it comes to giants. It's his barely disguised fetish.
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    Yeah, he should find a real world giantess and live it out to be rid of it.

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    Wait, does it mean that we're gonna get a Giantess for this Christmas?



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    Please for the love of God, don't jinx it, we know that jokes are essentially the lore of this universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anime Aurelius Anomaly View Post
    Please for the love of God, don't jinx it, we know that jokes are essentially the lore of this universe.
    Except I'm on Nasu's side so...



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