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    I didn't watch Frieren because the characters looked boring to me

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    I didn't watch Frieren because the characters looked boring to me
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    I'm happy the bait worked.

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    We can circle back to Biscione being a total whatever at best if you insist.
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    Heavens no, I much prefer this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Squirrel View Post
    So do I, mind, but in this case, it is a pretty solid adaptation with a real visual style. Unlike quite a lot of genuinely overhyped shows.
    Yeah i just prefer written medium so i can go at my own pace and it is the og work, even the best anime adaptations i'd say are slightly better than manga. Of course anime/LN/VN original works it's another story
    I still have like 25-30 mecha series and then i have to watch Monogatari so uhhh may be a while till i check Frieren

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarly Alter View Post
    I didn't watch Frieren because the characters looked boring to me
    Yeah they kinda look like generic japanese fantasy characters, same for the setting with elves, demon lords and other stuff that it's dime-a-dozen due to all the isekais. Not bad just most of them look sorta basic
    Frieren looks the most unique and i'd say she looks a lot like Ruri Hoshino from Nadesico

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    The setting is familiar, but that's fine because the point isn't to make an extremely original work, necessarily. The setting is like that so you can quickly familiarize yourself with the rules of how everything works and what to expect so that the story can get to the point quicker, based on your pre-existing knowledge of fictional worlds like this. This is primarily a character-based work and it would be rather inconvenient if it had to develop the rules of the setting in-depth for a dozen chapters. What is unique is extremely unique, to the point of driving passionate Internet arguments for many months, even now as the manga has gone on multiple hiatuses and the anime is in a between-seasons lull, so I feel like that makes up for it.

    I think the fact that a rather slow-paced, light on worldbuilding series that doesn't really have a big focus on fights but rather primarily characterization got this popular means that there's something compelling about it that transcends genre. Generally, what gets popular is really easily digestible stuff, and while Frieren is by no means a complicated or challenging work, it is something that I feel would bore the average battle shonenhead, yet it's above FMA on MAL to this day with like, zero resistance from that fanbase, despite its infamy for being overprotective of FMA's MAL ranking. That's not to say this "proves" its superiority to any degree, mind, it's just interesting to think about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Formless Creature View Post
    The setting is familiar, but that's fine because the point isn't to make an extremely original work, necessarily. The setting is like that so you can quickly familiarize yourself with the rules of how everything works and what to expect so that the story can get to the point quicker, based on your pre-existing knowledge of fictional worlds like this. This is primarily a character-based work and it would be rather inconvenient if it had to develop the rules of the setting in-depth for a dozen chapters. What is unique is extremely unique, to the point of driving passionate Internet arguments for many months, even now as the manga has gone on multiple hiatuses and the anime is in a between-seasons lull, so I feel like that makes up for it.

    I think the fact that a rather slow-paced, light on worldbuilding series that doesn't really have a big focus on fights but rather primarily characterization got this popular means that there's something compelling about it that transcends genre. Generally, what gets popular is really easily digestible stuff, and while Frieren is by no means a complicated or challenging work, it is something that I feel would bore the average battle shonenhead, yet it's above FMA on MAL to this day with like, zero resistance from that fanbase, despite its infamy for being overprotective of FMA's MAL ranking. That's not to say this "proves" its superiority to any degree, mind, it's just interesting to think about.
    Yeah designs aren't bad, it's just not something i'd give the series a thumbs up for. I can see it's worth and that it isn't the usual slop.
    Funny you mentioned FMAB on MAL because literally yesterday i got in a discussion with a fellow Steins Gate fan regarding Trash Taste's discussing MAL and their take that FMAB was more popular than SG because it had "wider-appeal".
    I think Steins Gate is more popular because it's much shorter and more unique and MAL isn't a good metric because multiple times we had the "hot new series" surpass FMAB only for the obsessed fandom to review-bomb it

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    Quote Originally Posted by GD3713 View Post
    Frieren looks the most unique and i'd say she looks a lot like Ruri Hoshino from Nadesico
    Frieren is basically female Robin from Fire Emblem if she was an elf.



    The main difference is that Robin is possessed by a dragon of darkness and becomes really sexy

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    Frieren designs and setting don't need to be anything too out there because the series is exrtremely character driven. It more than makes up for it and you don't even end up thinking about those factors at all.

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    Outstanding designs would detract from it all I feel. Just look at what happened with Aura. It's just distracting.

    Honestly it's either everyone stands out and so no one does, or no one does and it's marginally less boring, ironically.
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    write a really long story featuring "why my relationships with young girls are totally innocent"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarly Alter View Post
    Frieren is basically female Robin from Fire Emblem if she was an elf.



    The main difference is that Robin is possessed by a dragon of darkness and becomes really sexy

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    Robin mostly shares only the silver-haired twintails, this is character i was referring to. From a popular '90 anime so predating Robin. I also see various crossover fanart so i'm not only one thinking so

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d2/31/37/d...fd318d0cef.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by GD3713 View Post
    Robin mostly shares only the silver-haired twintails, this is character i was referring to. From a popular '90 anime so predating Robin. I also see various crossover fanart so i'm not only one thinking so

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d2/31/37/d...fd318d0cef.jpg
    Oh you're right, the colors are basically the same. Her, Frieren and Regulus from Re:Zero probably go buy clothes in the same store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Squirrel View Post
    Technically agreed but only in that it is a very high bar to pass. She's almost as amazing as everyone else. Also she got the best brainrot, which is to say Frieren's.
    Is this where I give the spicy take that I actually think it's a low bar and the boring personalities of most of the cast makes being the worst barely noteworthy

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    Priest dude was the most fun character

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    I had hope in Himmel but with every flashback he became increasingly more idealised and consequently more boring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarly Alter View Post
    Oh you're right, the colors are basically the same. Her, Frieren and Regulus from Re:Zero probably go buy clothes in the same store.
    For added points that design is from the movie where she is well-established as a heroine and known as "Electronic Fairy" due to TV series events.
    Nadesico was popular in the '90 and Ruri was THE breakout character from the series so high chance Frieren author knew it from his youth; i'd even argue the MC may have influenced Shirou Emiya because they have more than one trait in common

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    Quote Originally Posted by GD3713 View Post
    I am the one dude who hasn't watched Frieren in the whole planet
    You're not alone, because I'm the only other person who hasn't seen it. I plan on watching it, though.
    You are not immune to propoganda, probably.


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    It's a decent watch and well adapted. Some arcs are more boring than others but still

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    Though for well animated fantasy shows with some action in them for recent years I'd probably recommend yatagarasu

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    I mean it's enjoyable, but some parts of it definitely emits fascist vibes, but so does all anime and all fantasy

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    write a really long story featuring "why my relationships with young girls are totally innocent"
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    This is the real reason why we all come to BL btw.
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