Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Aozaki-desu]

HOLY SHIT
WE ARE SO BACK

Spoiler:

[Delastogos]

You can only field Saber Seravnts for this quest?

[VTKajin]

SF collab and Alcides headliner banner next year surely

[manafusion]

Berserker Heracles feels like a disrespect if anything, honestly. He deserves a proper sane Grand appearance if at all.

Berserker Caligula. The sane Caligula, at that.

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You can only field Saber Seravnts for this quest?

For the Grand Duel? Yes. Your capability to support your Grand is limited by who you have in your list of Servants.

[Oz1337]

Grand score buffs:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/...score_effects/

Important note, some buffs scale according to some conditions. The card up seems to scale according to how many nodes you unlocked in the normal class score of the same class, and others scale according to the total bond you have with Servants of the same class.

[Aozaki-desu]

oh you can just double dip on a bond ce with your grand

[fumei]

What's the total bonuses of the Grand Score? I suck at reading Atlas apparently.

- 20%-50% Quick card performance up on Grand (scales with the number of Saber class score signs unlocked)
- 20%-50% Arts card performance up on Grand (scales with the number of Saber class score signs unlocked)
- 20%-50% Buster card performance up on Grand (scales with the number of Saber class score signs unlocked)
- 100%-200% Extra attack card performance up on Grand (scales with the number of Saber class score signs unlocked)
- 20%-50% increased HP recovery on Grand (scales with total bond level of Saber-class Servants)
- 30%-80% increased debuff removal resistance (scales with total bond level of Saber-class Servants)
- 5%-10% NP charge per turn (scales with total bond level of Saber-class Servants) & 10% starting NP [This one is worded weird and you might only get the starting charge when you reach max scaling]
- Increases effectiveness of some Master skills by 20%-50% while Grand is on the field (scales with total bond level of Saber-class Servants; does not stack, most powerful effect counts, inactive for supports)
- When a Quick chain includes a card from a Grand, increase their star generation rate by 100% for 3 turns & star concentration by 500% for 3 turns
- When an Arts chain includes a card from a Grand, increase their NP gain by 30% for 2 turns
- When a Buster chain includes a card from a Grand, increase their critical power by 50% for 2 turns
- When a Mighty chain includes a card from a Grand, increase their attack power by 30% for 1 turn
- When a Brave chain includes a card from a Grand, increase their Quick/Arts/Buster card attack power by 50% (1 time each, 1 turn) & their extra attack power by 100% (1 time, 1 turn) before dealing damage that turn
- Doubles the skill charge speed of Master skills while Grand is on the field (does not stack, inactive for supports)
- When a chain fails, apply 50% defense up on Grand for 1 turn (unremovable)
- When a Grand uses NP, grant them 50000 damage cut from enemy NP, once for 2 turns (unremovable)

What's the cutoff point of using bond 15 Servants in terms of bond gain?

I've been told it caps at 100%, so four total bond 15 servants (which I guess makes sense since if you had five of them all the bonus bond would go to waste anyway).

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Grand score buffs:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/...score_effects/

Important note, some buffs scale according to some conditions. The card up seems to scale according to how many nodes you unlocked in the normal class score of the same class, and others scale according to the total bond you have with Servants of the same class.

Sniped I guess, but also I've seen multiple people interpret the 50% def up as happening when there's no chain happening, which I feel has to be wrong, no? Unless someone has actually just tested this already, since the word it uses is 不成立, which means "failure", which feels like it should logically apply to a chain error. In other words, if your grand is stunned or similar you can protect them.

[Kamera]

Solo runs are going to be an absolute joke from now

[Prussian55]

Do we know how many Saber bond levels do you need for the maximum effect on these?

[Paulie25]

Honestly this is all so exciting and then I remember the base Class score needs like a billion Mats to do anything and I remember “oh yeah this sucks nvm lol”.

[Dark Squirrel]

snip

I very much appreciate it, thank you!

[Aozaki-desu]

game truly feels like the end of days now, life is too good

[fumei]

Do we know how many Saber bond levels do you need for the maximum effect on these?

I'm pretty sure, but not 100% because there's no really easy way to check this other than guessing from some Atlas parameters, that the total amount of bond levels you need on Sabers is 200, and the total number of Saber class score signs unlocked is 62 (for reference, the max amount of availabe signs is 71)

[Malgos]

- When a Grand uses NP, grant them 50000 damage cut from enemy NP, once for 2 turns (unremovable)

This makes me wonder if

OC4

Paladin Shielder is basically Grand Shielder. Feels like they'd make an even bigger deal for that kind of thing, but at the same time this was a big deal.

By the way does the Bond Level max 25% Bonus affect Tea Pots etc. or just the base points? So many nice QoL updates like increased QP, which I needed around 5 years ago or so.

[Prussian55]

I'm pretty sure, but not 100% because there's no really easy way to check this other than guessing from some Atlas parameters, that the total amount of bond levels you need on Sabers is 200, and the total number of Saber class score signs unlocked is 62 (for reference, the max amount of availabe signs is 71)

Thanks!

[rxrx]

So I see people putting black grail on their grand saber. How does it work?

[fumei]

Probably because in these quests you can choose if you want to use their bond CE or get free 50% starting charge.

[idpersona]

So I see people putting black grail on their grand saber. How does it work?

you get 3 CE slots
one is the standard one
one is for the Bond CE.If you want you can opt out of the Bond CE effect for 50%battery
one is for the CE selection that awards increased bond/master exp/QP

[Aozaki-desu]

so if you run avengers node and run 4x bond 15s thats +100% on your last lost, which should be about 24k per run, or 216k per 9 pods sesh.
Possibly even more because you can equip all 20% ces suiting your last servant.
Thats 15-21 day per bond level 11-15, or 15 days per bond 5-10, just so you can accelerate bond coin gains for whoever you intend to grand next

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my alt has big Beni frens, but she did not do as much damage as dusa. presumably because power up vs super, even though at base they are comparable. So Dusa is best to ohko musashi, any brave chain should do it

[Nedog]

So we got kicked out of PHH for playing too much with Extra Classes, but creating our own Grand Servants is apparently fine.