Thread: Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    We just had Vegas rerun how the fuck did you spend all of those
    Are you thinking of Lores or did vegas award Chaldean Visionary Flames

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    On the matter of unremovable buffs and a bit on damage:

    Speaking as someone who heavily uses Amakusa (NP5'd just recently, LV100, maxed Fou'd, decked w/ CCs) pretty much everywhere from 3-turn daily farming (outside of events) to challenge quests to solo runs, admittingly, he is not a very ‘usable’ unit or someone who gets picked for farming or min-maxing setups in FGO in comparison to more popular and easier examples. As far as NP goes, I believe that his NP damage is so-so at a base level (i.e., netural damage, non-grailed, 1000-Fou'd, etc.). Even so, he can be pretty spammy with it. Here, I’m mostly speaking about Amakusa in isolation.

    Also, it's true that unremovable buffs makes Amakusa's buff removal less effective, especially when there are a lot or especially oppressive buffs, but the unremovable buff (in extension, break bar) mechanic has about just as much of an effect on other servants, I believe. Of course, there are some outliers who can pretty much brute force their way. It is just more apparent with Amakusa due it being a primarily clear-cut counter on paper (again, not that it didn’t impact Amakusa). Despite of this mechanic, removable buffs are still very prevalent and are part of the break bar, HP threshold, or turn-based mechanic, which can be manipulated or controlled to Amakusa's advantage.

    In essence, unremovable buffs sort of levels the playing field, so to speak. They make quests interesting or difficult for some, thus affecting certain servants more than others in specific cases, whereas, on the other hand, other servants get to shine. While unremovable buffs lessened his NP's effectiveness, personally, I only see this is the case when there is an obscene amount of them or for just really annoyingly and commonly specific buffs that Amakusa simply cannot deal with in isolation.

    Not related, but I always wanted a Baptismal Rite buff where it gives bonus damage against Servants, due to the fact that the skill can supposedly ‘sublimate’ Servants if used in conjunction with Amakusa’s NP arms, according to the mats. Also, it is too late probably, but his first skill should have had Charisma attached at his release, but oh well…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Are you thinking of Lores or did vegas award Chaldean Visionary Flames
    Did you not NP5 Hokusai twice?

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    I just got 17k FP in ~2 hours. I-i didn't know you guys were that hard up for gunpowder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendant View Post
    Did you not NP5 Hokusai twice?

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    I just got 17k FP in ~2 hours. I-i didn't know you guys were that hard up for gunpowder.
    I already bought this months' flame tho
    Mostly complaining about not getting any more Bond from this quest... or having to use one on Karna, but then again, he's my only NP3 SSR...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rentenzen View Post
    Not related, but I always wanted a Baptismal Rite buff where it gives bonus damage against Servants, due to the fact that the skill can supposedly ‘sublimate’ Servants if used in conjunction with Amakusa’s NP arms, according to the mats. Also, it is too late probably, but his first skill should have had Charisma attached at his release, but oh well…
    Not before Jeanne gets usable skills, sir.

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    Well, she does get bad 2030 in skill form and skill 3 is synergistic with the scenarios where one would think to bring a Jeanne so it's not all hopeless. Skill 2 is one crying shame tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobin View Post
    I still hope that they someday give Tamamo an unnecessary skill buff for filling NP bars in the future
    to the next 5 years!

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    Maybe we'll get Anniversary Strengthenings again
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    they'll just give nero bride another buff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    they'll just give nero bride another buff
    20% NP charge added to Flowers on Earth
    And 3-times Guts to Love for the People

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    Instructions unclear, buffed Merlin to 40% Charisma and 50% AoE gauge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    they'll just give nero bride another buff
    I'm okay with this development.

    Also, when is that famitsu interview or whatever? I want to be surprised at not seeing my question asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Maybe we'll get Anniversary Strengthenings again
    Can't wait for Helena to finally get her 1st skill buffed. Up to 50% NP charge for all party members plus 20% Atk Up for 1 turn.



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    Ok, wtf is going on. My 3 year old phone is playing FGO better than my newly bought phone.

    Xperia XZ (old) vs Xperia 10 II (new), mind you. I'm confused now.

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    I don't know anything but is the GPU that bad or what?

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    Just to explain why I think my new phone's worse at playing FGO:

    I can play the entirety of Arjuna Alter and Bradamante's NP animation no problem on my old phone. On the new phone, it stutters at specific spots. For Arjuna Alter, it's when we're pulling out from the spherical orb that the enemies are trapped in to show Arjuna Alter. For Bradamante, it's when she just appears dashing forward and showing her butt. My theory is that there's too much processing going on that the GPU can't handle each frame fast enough but my old phone could.

    EDIT: Oh, and this is how the game looks like on my phone. I put it in spoiler to show you that I have black bars on either side of my screen so the game should be consuming less visual real estate that it needs to render.

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    EDIT 2: Actually, ignore all that. I just checked online. Wow, it has a way worse-off GPU than my older phone. That's really saying something there. 4 year old phone runs better than the newest mid-range phone. Yikes.
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    something something, stable 30fps is better than 60fps with drops something

    that's the only thing i could come up with
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikiri View Post
    something something, stable 30fps is better than 60fps with drops something

    that's the only thing i could come up with
    Nah, it's just that a GPU that came out some 3 years later has shittier performance in general. It has it's info published online. I should've checked that one up before jumping the gun on a new phone. Here I was thinking "Adreno 530 is smaller in number-count than 610 and the phone just came out, surely it'll be better or on par, right"? Apparently, I was comparing wrong. It's like comparing a GTX 1080 vs an RTX 2060. But skewed way more for the 1080.
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    holy fuck how does one fail to phone this hard

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    return it and buy something actually good
    you can buy flagship specs for 300 euro (i dont actually know how much you blew on it i'm going off 360 / 320 on amazon de/eu)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    holy fuck how does one fail to phone this hard
    I needed a new phone, man. Honestly, I wanted the Xperia 1 II but my country's official Sony Centre won't stock it because of "pricing isn't right for the market". And I don't wanna get a new phone through a third-party dealer and then have an issue I can't fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    return it and buy something actually good
    you can buy flagship specs for 300 euro (i dont actually know how much you blew on it i'm going off 360 / 320 on amazon de/eu)
    Moneyback doesn't exist within this country. It's stupid, I know. You can't get a refund on what you buy. You can only sell it off second-hand for cheaper than what you paid for (I paid RM1799 for it btw).
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    420 dollarydoos?
    sweet baby jesus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    420 dollarydoos?
    sweet baby jesus
    Exchange rate is garbage. What to do?

    Like, a new flagship phone generally costs RM4000 here.

    EDIT: Samsung Galaxy S20+, RM3999.
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    samsung costs that everywhere, because its overpriced shite
    its also very weird to hear about people not having grace no-questions-asked refund period when even a bearcountry has it
    granted i only ever returned a piece of hardware once, and it was a legitimately borked expensive e-book

    oh and regarding the blue stripes thats every 21:9 phone, its not like there is much of a choice if you want latest hardware
    i used to laugh at my iphone internet friend but then i bought my latest phone and joke's on me

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    so this is fgo general right
    you know a way to buff tamamo without giving her np charge for the sake of "balance?"
    give her 20% np charge teamwide
    upon entering a field
    hows that

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