Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Kotonoha]

chuuni sakura

[asterism42]

"Anger me not, senpai! Lest my evil split personality, DARK SAKURA, rises and I birth a being of PURE MALICE."

[Skull]

how else would one explain a random british cat monster suddenly be the ultimate evil of humanity

something something both powerful nature spirit somehting beast of envy something

It does make you wonder what kind of monstrosity that would make Henwen which gave birth to Cath Palug...

[GundamFSN]

But Golden Fox is >>>> Kiara and Saver as stated in Extra mats. Which Beast is she then?

Well, that'd be Beast IX of course. After all the 7 Beasts has been thwarted Beast VIII BB will ascend to throne along with Beast IX Dark Souls Tamamo.

New designation folks.

C'mon Nasuuu.

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I know it’s not FZ Sakura, i just called her little Sakura because she has the appearance of an adolescent child and i wasn’t really sure how to refer to her. Because Middle School Sakura sounds like a mouthful

Kamakura

[Aozaki-desu]

But skadi 3 turn farming is a staple nowadays.

thats lame way to do things that requires you manually pick support and manually press buttons

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Arash with Polar buff and lvl100 aerial dive is 56k neutral damage which is 28k even against lancers
i should max it out or something similar, its totally worth it for ultimate farming combo

Damn, Fran is so fucking strong, i wanna use her so bad but there is just no cleanse or buff resist
Cat is slightly stronger on wave 2 but significantly weaker on wave 3, i dont like it
Needs another buff

[castor212]

strengthening quest Fran debuff cancel 3 times

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btw can fran reliably get 50% gauge, assuming non double skadi? so just skadi and waver

[R.Lock]

Mhm, I'd say no.

[Aozaki-desu]

strengthening quest Fran debuff cancel 3 times

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btw can fran reliably get 50% gauge, assuming non double skadi? so just skadi and waver

She doesnt fucking need it, Skadi Waver is 80% refund if you only NP twice
Arash with Waver and Polar for massive W1 damage (56k neutral minimal, 28k for lancers)
Fran with Waver and Skadi without own buffs at NP5 and LB Kaleido (for 2k attack) for 86k minimum if no attribute fuckery at NP5
Fran WITH BUFFS with JUST Skadi and Waver, NO POLAR BUFFS
at 2k attack and NP5 lvl80
137 thousand
137 fucking K
MINIMAL ROLL

multiply by 1.21 for lvl100 damage

best marriage material in fate

oh and Arash is with lvl1 polar, he totally clears lancers once you get couple levels in
And not sure if Aerial Dive is optimal

[Magikewl]

Kamakura

Yas Queen

[Aozaki-desu]

Oh but lancer nodes can suck arturia's big magical manhood, you can Arturia Arash Waver for massive damage and then Arturia herself should be able to handle pure lancer node with Waver and Merlin
so its like a fringe case
for normal nodes Arash with just Waver is enough
so you can use Polar on Wave 2 or Wave 3
probaby 3 since Fran W2 damage is already enough (totally enough if she's grailed)

THE PAIN
THE SUFFERING

[Kyte]

thats lame way to do things that requires you manually pick support and manually press buttons

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Arash with Polar buff and lvl100 aerial dive is 56k neutral damage which is 28k even against lancers
i should max it out or something similar, its totally worth it for ultimate farming combo

Damn, Fran is so fucking strong, i wanna use her so bad but there is just no cleanse or buff resist
Cat is slightly stronger on wave 2 but significantly weaker on wave 3, i dont like it
Needs another buff

Arash lasts for one round and forces a massive hitch as the game loads the backline replacement.

Also having used Achilles Skadi system I say it's fun to watch all those stars and crits.

[Oz1337]

Yeah, the load times for getting the next party member are terrible in my device, record time was 1 minute for me. Its the reason I dont use Arash as a farmer that much.

[Aozaki-desu]

I actually managed to get 25s quest (JUST HAHAHAHAHAA) loading times on emulator on my new PCs
my phone is a lost cause by now
and i bet my tablet would have like 2 minutes loading, i dont even wanna try though i could
so Arash thing doesnt bother me as much, its so fucking efficient and Skadi-independent
also variety, i kinda really like Summer Jeanne

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not to mention Fran is actually Skadi compatible

[Oz1337]

As a last resource you can use the command code that gives self stun immunity, but good luck beating RNG so you get the card with the CC.

[KAIZA]

Let's see...assuming you start with Arash for wave 1, then switch Skadi in, and Parvati goes with a 50% NP CE (ie Drunk Jeanne): fill up with Waver skills and Skadi Quick boost => 100%. Wave 3, NP refund effect at minimum is 10% + third skill 10% + 20% from MC skill (assuming Mages Association) + Skadi NP skill 50%, that's 90%, and you can't tell me her NP hitting wave 2 can't give her the remaining 10%.

Can someone verify?

[Aozaki-desu]

Let's see...assuming you start with Arash for wave 1, then switch Skadi in, and Parvati goes with a 50% NP CE (ie Drunk Jeanne): fill up with Waver skills and Skadi Quick boost => 100%. Wave 3, NP refund effect at minimum is 10% + third skill 10% + 20% from MC skill (assuming Mages Association) + Skadi NP skill 50%, that's 90%, and you can't tell me her NP hitting wave 2 can't give her the remaining 10%.

Can someone verify?

She is ok at refilling, but her damage is shit, hence NP levels

As a last resource you can use the command code that gives self stun immunity, but good luck beating RNG so you get the card with the CC.

fuck these things for anything other than cheesing some shitty CQ

[Pendant]

It just feels like DW is wasting my time tbh

[Aozaki-desu]

Other notable things i gather from my maxed out farming tables
Xiang Yu NP5 is the same level of damage as Fran NP5 (i guess he wants his interlude) but he is so fucked in NP gen department he cant even secure 20% without overkill with Skadi help
not to mention NP5 le SSR horseman
still he doesnt stun himself so i guess someone out there makes good use of him

Kiara and Okita Alter barely cross 100 at w3 with NP5 which is really sad, others even worse
Gil is pretty weak in wave 2 without massive amount of drugs and supermod, but at least he does 120k neutral with waver merlin and thats discounting polar suit so yeah i guess i'm making him NP5 if i get the opportunity

watch as my alt gets NP5 Gil before my main gets NP5 Da Vinci
fucking watch it

[KAIZA]

She is ok at refilling, but her damage is shit, hence NP levels


fuck these things for anything other than cheesing some shitty CQ

Dunno about you, but her damage output seems fine to me, and mine is NP2 last I checked.

But, then again, you're focused on macro farming, but just because she's not as reliable for that doesn't mean she's not a viable farming option for those who are actually playing the game. She can clear things just fine, or at least deal a good amount of damage in case of high HP neutral enemies.

[Aozaki-desu]

its not about macro
I consider Dantes baseline double skadi farmer and he does 60k neutral damage with LB kaleido at wave 2
(ohw8 actually thats with atk buff and you normally wouldnt use it there though maybe 1 def debuff from skadi for consistent clear)
doesnt change my point

parvati does 35k at np1, so like there is barely a reason to swap them at lancer node
(thats fullbuffed damage)

sure she refunds well but again even with 2 skadi i like arash strats because it allows me for higher servant variety
also its fast on my emulator

she's just weak unless you have high np level imo