Thread: Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    i have no grails and i must scream
    you too

    I guess we'll be getting another one shortly with LB6.3+Summer

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    I kinda wanna trick out my CasCu lol. He's NP5 anyway so it's tempting to do so but first I wanna be able to unlock his NP charge append skill and that's not looking like it will be all that easy to do (I only have 25 coins for him).

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    You don't really need it with double Vitchi. I just kitted mine out, and either plugsuiting into another charger or using the Clocktower suit let's him 3 turn with any CE, as long as skill 3 is level 10.

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    My Cascu is still NP2, and I fear hell remain that way for a while.

    Really wish they added storylocked Rs to FP gacha already

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    This is the list of the 3rd Append Skill bonus classes, by the way:
    It's almost complete, it miss only Fran and Elizabeth (Halloween)

    Mash - bonus damage against all Extra Classes.

    Saber
    Spoiler:
    Artoria - bonus damage against Rider.
    Artoria Alter - bonus damage against Rider.
    Artoria Lily - bonus damage against Caster.
    Nero - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Siegfried - bonus damage against Saber.
    Caesar - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Altera - bonus damage against Foreigner.
    Gilles - bonus damage against Caster.
    D'Eon - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Okita - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Fergus - bonus damage against Rider.
    Mordred - bonus damagae against Saber.
    Nero Bride - bonus damage against Asssassin.
    Shiki (saber) - bonus damage against Foreigner.
    Rama - bonus damage against Rider.
    Lancelot - bonus damage against Saber.
    Gawain - bonus damage against Rider.
    Bedivere - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Elizabeth (Brave) - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Musashi - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Arthur - bonus damage against Saber
    Suzuka - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Fran (Summer) - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Munenori - bonus damage against Saber
    Sigurd - bonus damage against Saber
    Medb (Summer) - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Diarmuid (Saber) - bonus damage against Saber
    Lanling - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Beni-Enma - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Lakshimibai - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Jason - bonus damage against Caster.
    Hokusai (Summer) - bonus damage against Foreigner.
    Astolfo (Saber) - bonus damage against Rider.
    Dioscuri - bonus damage against Ruler
    Tomoe - bonus damage against Alter Ego.
    Saito - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Tsuna - bonus damage against Berseker.
    Ibuki - bonus damage against Ruler
    Karna (Santa) - bonus damage against Saber
    Muramasa - bonus damage against Caster.
    FK Gawain - bonus damage against Alter Ego.

    Archer
    Spoiler:
    Emiya - bonus damage against Caster.
    Gilgamesh - bonus damage against Rider.
    Robin Hood - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Atalanta - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Euryale - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Arash - bonus damage against Rider.
    Orion - bonus damage against Archer
    David - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Nobbu - bonus damage against Rider.
    Tesla - bonus damage against Caster.
    Arjuna - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Kid Gilgamesh - bonus damage against Rider.
    Billy - bonus damage against Rider.
    Tristan - bonus damage against Caster.
    Touta - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Artoria (Summer) - bonus damage against Rider.
    Anne and Mary (Summer) - bonus damage against Rider.
    Chloe - bonus damage against Caster.
    Ishtar - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Moriarty - bonus damage against Caster.
    Emiya Alter - bonus damage against Archer
    Elena (summer) - bonus damage against Archer
    Tomoe - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Attila (Santa) - bonus damage against Foreigner.
    Fujino - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Chiron - bonus damage against Rider.
    Napoleon - bonus damage against Rider.
    Jeanne (Summer) - bonus damage against Berserker.
    William Tell - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Ashwattaman - bonus damage against Archer
    Paris - bonus damage against Rider.
    Osakabehime (Summer) - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Calamity Jane - bonus damage against Foreigner.
    Nightingale (Santa) - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Super Orion - bonus damage against Archer
    Sei Shonagon - bonus damage against Alter Ego.
    Illya (Summer) - bonus damage against Archer
    Nobukatsu - bonus damage against Caster.
    FK Tristan - bonus damage against Alter Ego.

    Lancer
    Spoiler:
    Cú Chulainn - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Elizabeth - bonus damage against Alter Ego.
    Benkei - bonus damage against Rider.
    Cú Chulainn (Prototype) - bonus damage against Caster.
    Leonidas - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Romulus - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Hector - bonus damage against Rider.
    Scáthach - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Diarmuid - bonus damage against Caster.
    Artoria (Lancer Alter) - bonus damage against Rider.
    Karna - bonus damage against Rider.
    Fionn - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Brynhildr - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Li Shuwen - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Artoria (Lancer) - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Tamamo (Summer) - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Kiyohime (Summer) - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Vlad (EXTRA) - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Jeanne (Alter Santa Lily) - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Enkidu - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Medusa (Lancer) - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Jaguar Man - bonus damage against Rider.
    Raikō (Summer) - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Parvati - bonus damage against Alter Ego.
    Inshun - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Nezha - bonus damage against Caster.
    Ereshkigal - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Valkyrie - bonus damage against Rider.
    Ibaraki (Summer) - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Qin Liangyu - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Bradamante - bonus damage against Rider.
    Kagetora - bonus damage against Rider.
    Gareth - bonus damage against Rider.
    Mysterious Alter Ego Λ - bonus damage against Caster.
    Caenis - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Romulus-Quirinus - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Erice - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Consort Yu (Summer) - bonus damage against Caster.
    Vritra - bonus damage against Avenger.
    FK Lancelot - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Percival - bonus damage against Lancer.

    Rider
    Spoiler:
    Medusa - bonus damage against Saber.
    Georgios - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Blackbeard - bonus damage against Rider.
    Boudica - bonus damage against Saber.
    Ushiwakamaru - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Alexander - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Marie - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Martha - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Drake - bonus damage against Archer.
    Anne & Mary - bonus damage against Rider.
    Artoria (Santa Alter) - bonus damage against Saber.
    Astolfo - bonus damage against Saber.
    Medb - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Iskandar - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Kintoki (Rider) - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Ozymandias - bonus damage against Archer.
    Mordred (Summer) - bonus damage against Saber.
    Quetzalcoatl - bonus damage against Foreigner.
    Columbus - bonus damage against Rider.
    Malter - bonus damage against Saber.
    Ishtar (Summer) - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Ivan - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Achilles - bonus damage against Archer.
    Ryōma - bonus damage against Archer.
    Red Hare - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Reines - bonus damage against Rider.
    Da Vinci (Rider) - bonus damage against Alter Ego.
    Bartholomew Roberts - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Carmilla (Summer) - bonus damage against Rider.
    Mandricardo - bonus damage against Saber.
    Europa - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Odysseus - bonus damage against Rider.
    Murasaki (Summer) - bonus damage against Alter Ego.
    Nemo - bonus damage against Archer.

    Caster
    Spoiler:
    Medea - bonus damage against Saber.
    Gilles (Caster) - bonus damage against Foreigner.
    Andersen - bonus damage against Alter Ego.
    Shakespeare - bonus damage against Caster.
    Mephistopheles - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Mozart - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Waver - bonus damage against Caster.
    Cú Chulainn (Caster) - bonus damage against Foreigner.
    Elizabeth (Halloween)
    Tamamo - bonus damage against Moon Cancer.
    Medea (Lily) - bonus damage against Saber.
    Nursery Rhyme - bonus damage against Archer.
    Paracelsus - bonus damage against Saber.
    Babbage - bonus damage against Caster.
    Helena - bonus damage against Archer.
    Edison - bonus damage against Archer.
    Geronimo - bonus damage against Archer.
    Irisviel - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Sanzang - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Nitocris - bonus damage against Caster.
    Da Vinci - bonus damage against Alter Ego.
    Marie (Summer) - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Ilya - bonus damage against Archer.
    Gilgamesh (Caster) - bonus damage against Archer.
    Merlin - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Scheherazade - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Nero (Summer) - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Circe - bonus damage against Caster.
    Queen of Sheba - bonus damage against Caster.
    Anastasia - bonus damage against Caster.
    Avicebron - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Sieg - bonus damage against Saber.
    Skaði - bonus damage against Caster.
    Shuten (Caster) - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Miyu - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Murasaki - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Asclepius - bonus damage against Archer.
    Chen Gong - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Artoria Caster - bonus damage against Saber.
    Miss Crane - bonus damage against Ruler.

    Assassin
    Spoiler:
    Kojirō - bonus damage against Saber.
    Cursed Arm - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Stheno - bonus damage against Rider.
    Jing Ke - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Sanson - bonus damage against Saber.
    Phantom - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Mata Hari - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Carmilla - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Jack - bonus damage against Archer.
    Jekyll - bonus damage against Saber when Assassin, bonus damage against Rider when Berserker.
    MHX - bonus damage against Saber.
    Shiki - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Kiritsugu - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Hundred Faces - bonus damage against Archer.
    Shuten - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Kotaro - bonus damage against Alter Ego.
    Serenity - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Scáthach (Summer) - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Cleopatra - bonus damage against Saber.
    King Hassan - bonus damage against Saber.
    Yan Qing - bonus damage against Archer.
    Wu Zetian - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Nitocris (Summer) - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Chiyome - bonus damage against Alter Ego.
    Danzō - bonus damage against Alter Ego.
    Osakabehime - bonus damage against Archer.
    Semiramis - bonus damage against Saber.
    Izō - bonus damage against Saber.
    Ushiwakamaru (Summer) - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Consort Yu - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Li Shuwen (Assassin) - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Kama - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Gray - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Charlotte - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Okita J Sōji - bonus damage against Archer.
    Kiichi - bonus damage against Archer.
    Koyanskaya - bonus damage against Archer.

    Berserker
    Spoiler:
    Heracles - crit resistance against Saber.
    Lancelot (Berserker) - crit resistance against Berserker.
    Lu Bu - crit resistance against Rider.
    Spartacus - crit resistance against Rider.
    Kintoki - crit resistance against Assassin.
    Vlad III - crit resistance against Lancer.
    Asterios - crit resistance against Saber.
    Caligula - crit resistance against Saber.
    Darius III - crit resistance against Rider.
    Kiyohime - crit resistance against Lancer.
    Eric Bloodaxe - crit resistance against Caster.
    Tamamo Cat - crit resistance against Alter Ego.
    Fran
    Beowulf - crit resistance against Saber.
    Nightingale - crit resistance against Avenger.
    Cú Chulainn (Alter) - crit resistance against Lancer.
    Raikō - crit resistance against Assassin.
    Ibaraki - crit resistance against Saber.
    MHXA - crit resistance against Assassin.
    Hijikata - crit resistance against Alter Ego.
    Chacha - crit resistance against Ruler.
    Penthesilea - crit resistance against Rider.
    Bunyan - crit resistance against Assassin.
    Nobunaga (Summer) - crit resistance against Moon Cancer.
    Atalanta (Alter) - crit resistance against Archer.
    Jalter (Summer) - crit resistance against Archer.
    Xiang Yu - crit resistance against Saber.
    Arjuna (Alter) - crit resistance against Archer.
    Mori - crit resistance against Avenger.
    Salome - crit resistance against Ruler.
    Musashi (Summer) - crit resistance against Lancer.
    Kijyo Kōyō - crit resistance against Saber.
    Brynhildr (Summer) - crit resistance against Lancer.
    Galatea - crit resistance against Assassin.
    Morgan - crit resistance against Saber.

    Ruler
    Spoiler:
    Jeanne - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Amakusa - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Martha (Summer) - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Holmes - bonus damage against Berserker.
    QSH - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Quetzalcoatl (Samba/Santa) - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Astraea - bonus damage against Archer.
    Artoria (Ruler) - bonus damage against Saber.
    Himiko - bonus damage against Foreigner.
    Caren - bonus damage against Archer.

    Avenger
    Spoiler:
    Dantes - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Jalter - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Angra - bonus damage against Caster.
    Gorgon - bonus damage against Rider.
    Hessian Lobo - bonus damage against Alter Ego.
    Salieri - bonus damage against Caster.
    Nobunaga (Avenger) - bonus damage against Alter Ego.
    Space Ishtar - bonus damage against Archer.
    Kagekiyo - bonus damage against Rider.

    Moon Cancer
    Spoiler:
    BB - bonus damage against Alter Ego.
    BB (Summer) - bonus damage against Foreigner.
    Jinako - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Kiara (Summer) - bonus damage against Caster.

    Alter Ego
    Spoiler:
    Melt - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Passionlip - bonus damage against Assassin.
    Kiara - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Mecha Eli-chan - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Mecha Eli-chan MkII - bonus damage against Saber.
    Okita (alter) - bonus damage against Caster.
    Sitonai - bonus damage against Saber.
    Kingprotea - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Douman - bonus damage against Alter Ego.

    Foreigner
    Spoiler:
    Abigail - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Hokusai - bonus damage against Berserker.
    MHXX - bonus damage against Moon Cancer.
    Yang Guifei - bonus damage against Ruler.
    Voyager - bonus damage against Lancer.
    Abigail (Summer) - bonus damage against Avenger.
    Gogh - bonus damage against Caster.
    MIXA - bonus damage against Berserker.
    Because you are too young. Or too stupid. Or both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GDB View Post
    You don't really need it with double Vitchi. I just kitted mine out, and either plugsuiting into another charger or using the Clocktower suit let's him 3 turn with any CE, as long as skill 3 is level 10.
    lol plug Merlin for the 20% starting gauge

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    Some notable things:
    - The only Servants that have straight up bonus against their class favorite enemies are some Foreigners and STHENO. Medusa bullying knows no end.
    - the third skill works differently for Hyde and Jekyll
    - A lot of Servants involved in Shimousa have Alter Ego advantage
    - Mecha Eli-chan and Mecha Eli-chan MkII have advantage against different classes.
    Because you are too young. Or too stupid. Or both.

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    aw i couldnt excaliblast all break bars
    i guess i'll try again on alt later

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    huh, did anyone else not notice the free "holy grail drop"? was that from grail front?

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    for some reason i though part 2 gave 2 grails FUCK
    Last edited by Aozaki-desu; August 3rd, 2021 at 01:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herod View Post
    Some notable things:
    - The only Servants that have straight up bonus against their class favorite enemies are some Foreigners and STHENO. Medusa bullying knows no end.
    There's a lot of non-Foreigner Servants that also have advantage against Berserkers, so there's that too.

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    Voyager's bonus being against Lancers lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendant View Post
    I kinda wanna trick out my CasCu lol. He's NP5 anyway so it's tempting to do so but first I wanna be able to unlock his NP charge append skill and that's not looking like it will be all that easy to do (I only have 25 coins for him).
    If you're wanting to do 3 NPs with him and double Bitch, he doesn't need it unless you want to avoid plugsuit. Still really lame that DW didn't give coins for story locked and time limited C/R.
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    Then I will ask that you pay closer attention
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

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    Okay, so I did some hasty testing in the one Russia node I'm farming for myself mostly but it may prove illuminating to others. Keep in mind this node's final wave is comprised of 2 Sabers and 1 Berserker so he's hitting neutral on two enemies and super effectively on just one.

    The results were as follows: level 70 NP5 CasCu with MLB BG and double Vitch using Mage's Association dealt 781,391 damage on the final wave

    Using Plugsuit and throwing in Merlin dealt 1,190,978 to the wave

    For a comparison I used NP2 Nero Caster with double Vitch and using Atlas instead on that same node and her final wave damage was 556,820

    The power of Black Grail. I should do a CE-less clear to see what his unboosted damage is like because you want to use event CEs in events and those can be quite crappy. It is nice, however, that he can 3t anything with 6 CEs because refund doesn't matter to Buster.

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    Brynhildr not having anti-Saber is the absolute stupidest thing ever and I am forced to declare this mechanic garbage as a result
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandstorm77 View Post
    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya View Post
    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly

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    And for those who might have been wondering, CasCu without a CE and using Mage's Association on the aforementioned node dealt 387,986 to the final wave. Unremarkable but not terrible but do keep in mind that though event CEs do have a tendency to be weak they are still better than literally nothing, so there is that.

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    Done with bullets for Koyanskaya... but now I'll have to farm some Spinal Fluid

    Ah shit I guess I could've helped submit the new droprates huh

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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Brynhildr not having anti-Saber is the absolute stupidest thing ever and I am forced to declare this mechanic garbage as a result
    I get where you coming from, but I think it's reasonable enough to have her tied to the other Valkyries and presumably the most optimal version of Odin.

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    In case you're interested to know what works with Vitch, here's a list of options:

    Last edited by Oz1337; August 3rd, 2021 at 03:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oz1337 View Post
    There's a lot of non-Foreigner Servants that also have advantage against Berserkers, so there's that too.
    Yeah, but I was thinking about full advantage, both attack and defense.
    Because you are too young. Or too stupid. Or both.

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