Oh wow I didn't remember that at all.
Oh wow I didn't remember that at all.
Yeah fate Medusa's story isn't something nasu made so he'd avoid the rape parts, it's actually how it was in earlier stories, he just took the easy one.
Maou Nobu tho.Originally Posted by Irrelevant Passerby
Yeah, but now people are going to use "lore" as a rebuttal whenever someone tries to correct them. "Their profile leaves it ambiguous as to whether Caenis physically changed into a man, so that means she could've just been a woman who presented as a man like Artoria and therefore it's not incorrect to use female pronouns."
It's nonsense that ignores fundamental context, but it's a thought process that'll add an additional layer of frustration to those conversations. Like, that little detail probably isn't going to significantly increase the amount of people that hold that position, but it will encourage those already predisposed to it.
Oh, they did say they get done by tomorrow. I'll still be asleep by then.
Spoiler:
Nah, they'll just say "has boobs, is girl". I mean, look at Mordred, Chevalier d'Eon, and Da Vinci.
That is a point in favor of it happening, but Maou Nobu's design doesn't lean nearly as heavily on skimpy fanservice as Caenis's does. Their first two ascensions are fairly androgynous, so their design can change from female to male without much difference. On the other hand, the sheer amount of exposed skin Caenis has would necessitate a more... apparent shift in design.
Well, you're not wrong. That is probably the amount of thought most players will put into it.
Last edited by Irrelevant Passerby; April 8th, 2020 at 11:56 PM.
You shouldn't waste your energy with arguments like those anyway, you know people won't listen.
Caenis is a girl though
Caeneus is a dude
And Vergil has him revert to a she in the underworld anyway so w/e
Didn't Ophelia use female pronouns tho? I heard something like that from friends playing NA
In the opening scene of Russia, Ophelia calls Caenis he then backtracks and says she. Kirsch meanwhile keeps saying he. Given Kirsch's attitude I assumed he was the one misgendering and Caenis goes with female pronouns. I really know very little of Fate Caenis though.
Hoping despite the odds for a Caeneus ascension, would be neat.
Ophelia did, but Wodime answers her using male pronouns and I believe Caenis uses male ones as well (though I'm not sure about the last one).
I'd trust her Master to know more about it than Ophelia.
Actually what pronouns did Jason use
That's the only one that matters
That's true but he doesn't seem like the type to care.
Though identfying as male would make more sense given the backstory.
Da Vinci is really, really easy to read as a trans woman, tho.
Your interpretation does make sense too.
I'm sure there are scenes in Atlantis (or even before it) that do a better job to clarify it.
Well if you do that then Nasu is transphobic because Romani describes her as a pervert, not as trans.
Last edited by pinetree; April 9th, 2020 at 12:24 AM.
Romani dies for his sins.
Like I'm gonna listen to the opinion of a guy who had, like, a billionty wives
He described her as a pervert because she goes around naked.
Romani calling Da Vinci a pervert and using male pronouns for her was weird because it vanished after the first couple singularities, but not like a character development vanish, more like it just stopped without comment.
Being Trans is not what makes Da Vinci a pervert, walking around naked and wet is.
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