Thread: Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehennahem View Post
    Even Romulus Quirinus had his sole Interlude... becomes Boudica's 28th because god-fucking-dammit, we need to make Boudica work because we keep putting her in the same damn box as Berserker Penthesilea rather than having her actually get the fuck over it!
    Okay, that came out of nowhere...
    Don't worry, i have a friend who's very frustrated at Boudica's character gets used and also a fan of Quetz funnily enough.
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    FINANCIAL FREEDOM REGAINED

    now which ones of these gachas i want to get fucked by

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    oh wow, landing that 20% after having to spend 1k quartz worth of rolls on np2 arc
    my alt making a comeback statement
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    i guess i win this fucking paid gacha round, 2/2
    no da vinci dupes though, shame

    i'd lose my shit if i got any though, after np5 arc in 120 rolls
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    how come there are no dank Bakin - Moriarty combo videos? you can probably get some really nice damage out of Bakin that way

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    Because Bakin is lame, OP.
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    canon finish apo vol 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    how come there are no dank Bakin - Moriarty combo videos? you can probably get some really nice damage out of Bakin that way
    Hard to have both. I have Y.M. but not Bakin, and nobody puts a Bakin with a damage CE, only with the QP farming CE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herod View Post
    I mean, if you take away the Sherlock plot and the whole fight against Lancer Artoria, Camelot would have less content than a Lostbelt prologue too. What the fuck is supposed to mean?
    Are you serious? Like, for real?

    That which keeps players invested in a storyline is intrigue. At the outset of the story, the premises of this intrigue is laid out.

    Take for example Part 1 of FGO:
    In the prologue it is established that for some reason the future has disappeared. You are part of an organization who have to figure out why. The cause is identified as the 7 Singularities. From your fight with Lev in the prologue, it is established that he's been sent by his 'king', who is the one responsible for the Incineration.
    It establishes two points of intrigue, the 7 Singularities, and figuring out the truth behind the disappearance of the future.
    Near the end, it establishes one more once it starts to answer the first point of intrigue, the Evils of Man.
    So when you go through the story, this is what you're supposed to care about.
    Keep in mind I'm not even commenting on whether or not these premises are interesting or not, simply that this is what the story wants you to care about.

    Now Part 2 of FGO has a few more things going, not just in the complexity of those premises, but in the amount of them.

    In the Prologue and start of Part 1 we have a few things established:
    The Earth has been bleached by an unknown force seemingly from outer space.
    7 Trees of Fantasy have descended upon Earth, establishing the 7 Lostbelts.
    Alongside the Lostbelts there are now 7 Crypters with their own personal Servants who have their own agendas.
    3 mysterious Apostles who serve the assailant of Earth similarly have their own agendas.
    (we also have a few leftover points of intrigue from Part 1 and Part 1.5 in the form of Holmes and the Evils of Man)

    So what's the difference between Camelot and Traum? Obviously, its that the Servant War has absolutely nothing to do with the points of intrigue. It basically has the same premise as any old event would! Here's a Singularity, go fix it. Not only that, but keep in mind that just before we've had this whole thing of Nova Chaldea being destroyed, and it being established that like this is it, now we're heading toward the final battle. But no, instead Chaldea has to take care of a literal oversized Event story first. The two parts that do focus on the points of intrigue (Holmes/Subject E) make up a hilariously small part of the actual Singularity. Resolving Siegfried's fucking marriage is not what I want to do when Chaldea is headed straight toward their final stand after having almost been destroyed by the main villain.

    In comparison, Camelot is not only one of the established Singularities of Part 1, it is also where we finally get resolution surrounding the identity of Mashu's Servant, providing her with the most character development yet. It is where we learn more about the Incineration through the Lion King's opposition of Solomon's plan, and gives food for thought about what Chaldea is even fighting for.

    They are not even remotely comparable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fumei View Post
    Can I interrupt this argument to ask if someone can find the post about how to get around region block for buying quartz that was posted here (or maybe in another thread) at the start of anni? I literally can't find it again.
    https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthrea...=1#post3210816

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    The Servant War was created by the Singularity, and the Singularity was indirectly created by subject E. In fact, it's the only reason Chaldea was able to find out about it in the first place. How is this not related to the main plot?
    Last edited by Herod; August 5th, 2022 at 05:29 PM.
    Because you are too young. Or too stupid. Or both.

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    I think it has to be somewhat related, we even have the revelation from Xu Fu at the end about the masters, the "war" of Traum is a direct result of this, and reveals and points towards the true nature of things, no?

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    That's like saying Summer Camp is related to the plot because it was indirectly created by a Crypter.
    shit BL says

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    It's like with centaur girls, you're fucking a horse. Sure the human part is the one that moans but your dick is in the horse, no way around it.
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    boytoy angst > fulfilling life of misanthropic extremist environmentalism
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    ladies, he's single
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    Yeah, but that's because he's got more issues than National Geographic.
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    Isn't the whole thing about all the Servants there being opposed to PHH at the behest of Experiment E kinda important?

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    There result of the cause is exploration and expansion on the mystery, which is a lot more than Summer Camp can say

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    You know, I'm tired of this place. Fuck you all. Delete this account.
    Because you are too young. Or too stupid. Or both.

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    I don't know anything about how Traum actually played out, I'm just pointing out that "indirectly caused by" is a tenuous link at best.

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    shit BL says

    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    It's like with centaur girls, you're fucking a horse. Sure the human part is the one that moans but your dick is in the horse, no way around it.
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    boytoy angst > fulfilling life of misanthropic extremist environmentalism
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    ladies, he's single
    Quote Originally Posted by OverMaster View Post
    Yeah, but that's because he's got more issues than National Geographic.
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    You are not getting government-handout waifus.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sione View Post
    Just integrate her with the Barghest side arc
    I don't see how forcing her into a character's arc that she had no connection to would be any better than Tunguska.
    make her whole encounter with Cernunnos actually amount to something.
    You mean the encounter that saved Chaldea, ruined her plans and was the whole cause of her event to begin with?

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    Some Joker moments happening here

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    I'm gonna get spooked into NP5 Europa at this rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herod View Post
    You know, I'm tired of this place. Fuck you all. Delete this account.
    Definitely not something I expected to see when I came in this thread.

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    I'm gonna get spooked into NP5 Europa at this rate.
    Granny is a good civ (but you still have my condolences)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delastogos View Post
    Don't worry, i have a friend who's very frustrated at Boudica's character gets used and also a fan of Quetz funnily enough.
    Yeah, I'm just really tired at how people keep thinking the way to fix Boudica is to make her an Avenger and hate the Romans... which will literally put her in the same box as Penthesilea and wouldn't change a damn thing. It feels so hilariously ass backwards because I can understand making it a joke compared to an actual issue Boudica has(like in Summer 2) but when they keep going back into it over and over again, it just loses all meaning and becomes boring as hell and beyond tedious.

    It's why I went from liking Penthesilea to just loathing her appearance every time and just want Hippolatya to come in JUST so she can finally have something else to do or the same deal with Semiramis and I actually want to like Semiramis, I shouldn't have to read Apocrypha to get more from her than FGO when freaking AMAKUSA got more characterization than she does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurozetto View Post
    Definitely not something I expected to see when I came in this thread.
    I can honestly understand Herod's frustration. It's one thing to say that Traum was undercooked in terms of not really focusing on it's plot or characters well or not doing a French Revolution style deal.
    It's another to pretend it has nothing to do with the main story... when it's entire existence is literally done by a major mystery point the game has been focusing on.

    It's basically the equivalent of basically just complaining at the clouds for it raining that day.
    It honestly reminds me of how I have seen people who will complain about how the story isn't swinging for them and dares to have "inconsistencies"(literal reasons for why it won't go as such) and when you actually point it out, they bitch at you for "being a simp for the game". The entire point of some stories is to make sure baselines are established so there's a reason to care that they are being followed or ultimately broken through.
    Last edited by Gehennahem; August 5th, 2022 at 07:49 PM.

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