Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Comun]

JAPAN Liz wen tho?

Shi Jin's NP animation.

[idpersona]

[Reign]

As far as I've seen, any law that might apply to this situation only has jusrisdiction within Australia itself, and there is no cases of it being brought to the international stage. From a legal point of view, anyone not in Australia can use cultural symbols like the Wandjina without fear of legal repurcussions. Whether or not someone would think its morally ok is another matter, but nobody's getting sued over it.

I've seen people bring up the time from the early 2000s where the Maori approached Lego for using their language in Bionicle and succesfully got them to change a bunch of terms and character names, but the thing is that was settled entirely outside the courtroom. If Lego had been willing to actually go to court over it I don't think the Maori would have had a case, legally speaking. It's not exactly the same scenario (language vs religious figure) but like you say, morality of the choice aside, I don't think there's going to be any legal action from this.

[idpersona]

Street art Wandjinas appeared in some australian cities during the late 00s,and aboriginals were big mad.

These street art Wandjinas were cute.Not waifu cute,but cute.

[Paulie25]

It feels like it’d be something that the Aboriginals would be upset over but probably can’t do anything about at least in Japan. It’s probably not actually gonna cause trouble for FGO but there’s probably a discussion to be had about if TM are being dickheads about this.

[You]

I can see them getting mad about it when it comes out in NA.
Other than that, no one outside the fgo twittersphere is going to be mad. And no one in the fgo twittersphere has enough clout to make an actual fuss.

[Formless Creature]

I have a strong suspicion that the aboriginal people in charge of handling things like this don't even know what an "Eff Go" is.

[Pendant]

They surely have no clue, and only intense needling by some outsider(s) angling to get a desired reaction is the only plausible way this would even elicit a response from aborigine leadership.

[Comun]

FGO is kind of a huge source of otaku tourism, so I'm sure the Mowanjum community will notice something once the waves of Japanese visitors in waifu t-shirts start appearing.

[GDB]

It feels like it’d be something that the Aboriginals would be upset over but probably can’t do anything about at least in Japan. It’s probably not actually gonna cause trouble for FGO but there’s probably a discussion to be had about if TM are being dickheads about this.

Just refer to said discussion from months ago. There's literally no need to rehash it.

[Pendant]

I can see them getting mad about it when it comes out in NA.
Other than that, no one outside the fgo twittersphere is going to be mad. And no one in the fgo twittersphere has enough clout to make an actual fuss.

What would ever possess someone to create a Beast's Lair posting L's gimmick account on Twitter?

[Rafflesiac]

Getting owned in an irrelevant quibble ten years prior and never living it down.

[Kamera]

Kind of gross that people tend to assume that aboriginal people don't have access to the internet, don't use Twitter or don't play FGO in the first place.

[Formless Creature]

That there are aboriginal people who know about FGO is undeniable. But it's less of a "they're too uncivilized to know about it" and more of a "they're too busy fighting with an insane deranged woman to be looking around for every possible transgression of their religious law imaginable".

My real bias is that I just tend to assume that FGO is too niche for anyone to care or know about it outside of otaku circles. I know some Indian religious authorities took issue with the depiction of Hinduism in it, but I don't think anything ever came out of that.

[Pendant]

Kind of gross that people tend to assume that aboriginal people don't have access to the internet, don't use Twitter or don't play FGO in the first place.

I'd say the same about the ruling gerontocracy of any Western country tbh. I don't think Joe Biden would know of/much less care about FGO unless someone made a point of making him aware of it. I don't see why it would be any different for aboriginal leaders.

[Formless Creature]

Yep, pretty much. It wasn't a "no aboriginal person in australia would EVER KNOW about FGO" but rather "the people in charge of things like the Tenodi case, who are presumably all 50 or something, wouldn't be playing anime games on their phones because they have better things to do with their lives". It doesn't stop someone who does know about FGO from telling them about it, but I don't think they would go out of their way to find it.

[Kamera]

Come on now, "Aboriginal People" is not a monolithic entity. They've got their own opinions and free will and you don't have assume what their priorities are.

Refer back to this tweet.

[Formless Creature]

Well yeah, but that's just a guy. He's not making legal cases against people or anything. Again, doesn't stop him or someone like him from informing the people who do. Like I said, it's more that my assumption is that old people who go around fighting court cases don't know about FGO, not aboriginal people in general. I would assume this of any authority for anything ever.

[GDB]

Come on now, "Aboriginal People" is not a monolithic entity. They've got their own opinions and free will and you don't have assume what their priorities are.

Using this logic, neither "side" should be arguing about this at all here. In fact, I like the results of that logic, because this whole thing sounds like various levels of virtue signaling and/or trolling, depending on the statement at hand.

[Kamera]

Well, yeah all this argument is silly because none of us here are even sure if this particular case is even a problem to an Aboriginal Kimberley people (it's not even comparable to the Tenodi case, since that one has purely malicious intent, and the one evidence we know of from an actual Aboriginal is that they're totally cool with it), all you got are assumptions about how the Aboriginal community works in your head.