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    Torn between wanting to roll for Kenshin NP2 or rolling for more Shingen (I've already got him NP2)... Kenshin seems average but it's not really fully about gameplay for me, but also Shingen is just great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirishima View Post
    Man is every character the exact same with slight NP refund and damage variance now?
    It's been like that for awhile, yeah. Part of why I stopped caring about what they do in gameplay and make decision to roll base on aesthetics, lore and overall appeal (might or might not be intentional by design).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily Emilio View Post
    It's been like that for awhile, yeah. Part of why I stopped caring about what they do in gameplay and make decision to roll base on aesthetics, lore and overall appeal (might or might not be intentional by design).
    Same here. Of course there's a few times in which some Servants have very unique gameplay, but nowadays if it's a 5*, it's most likely going to be an AoE farming unit that is better than past farming units in some regard. If it's a ST which is rare for a 5*, it will have some ability to spam their NP to be used in 90++ quests.

    If anything 4* or below tend to be the ones that are more interesting because of that, since they don't care about making them farming units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStein View Post
    Ibuki has 50% Crit, Majin has 50% Crit, Takasugi has targeted 50% crit
    They tend to give 50% crit dmg up to AoE NP servants, yes. a bit wrong, there are not many servants with 50% crit up with single target NP, I think there is a lot of aoe np servants with 30% crit dmg up, would have to check

    Summer Majin is a summer servant, they tend to have higher numbers.

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    Scathach has 50% crit
    Which can fail, her other buffs are for 1 turn, doesn't have ATK up

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    Okita has 40% 3 turns and another 50% one turn
    Quite strong after few strengthening, quick buff for 1 turn and atk up locked into that skill; but can make use of def down from NP

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    Muramasa has freaking 100% Crit...
    and his other buff is for 1 turn, no ATK up, AoE servant



    I feel that it's always somehow more or less balanced, if they have higher value of something, then they don't have something else (other buffs or def options) or the duration of such skill is shorter. Makes one servant good for quick bursting down an opponnent, another for more consistent damage. It's not always an equivalent exchange, which in case makes the servant more desirable.

    if she had 30% crit dmg 3 times for 3T, that I would call a nerf

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    if she didn't have the star weight for 3t on that skill, she probably would have 50% crt dmg up
    Last edited by Nikiri; December 4th, 2023 at 03:53 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikiri View Post
    counter-argument
    Honestly, I think all these "she does everything" talk is only applicable to Grail Front. Regular fights requiring a team can easily be compensated. Damage and NP generation are always needed since you can't have too much of it but stars per turn isn't when it's drawn from a shared pool. It's a "nice to have" effect.

    Also, IIRC, her skills all cap at 6 turns. Some Servants have 3T 50% Crit Damage Up on 5 turns and some are even party-wide.

    EDIT: Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think she's better for Grail Front. Buffs that can be collected from the nodes (the one-time buff, not node-permanent ones) are not permanent and can be removed. And there's less pressure fighting enemies there unlike using her for boss killing. The only part of her kit that feels bad is probably the Star Attraction buff but teaming up with another Servant would still make it somewhat valuable to have.
    Last edited by manafusion; December 4th, 2023 at 02:13 PM.



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    When did the soundtrack myroom refunds happen?Asking to calculate when its coming on EN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idpersona View Post
    When did the soundtrack myroom refunds happen?Asking to calculate when its coming on EN.
    I don't remember them ever refunding the sound player expenditures. Otherwise, I'd be in a position where I have stupidly high amounts of monuments and don't have to worry about buying them.



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    Quote Originally Posted by manafusion View Post
    I don't remember them ever refunding the sound player expenditures. Otherwise, I'd be in a position where I have stupidly high amounts of monuments and don't have to worry about buying them.
    Must have mixed a random soundtrack addition with them refunding the soundtrack purchases.Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirishima View Post
    Man is every character the exact same with slight NP refund and damage variance now?
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    It's been like that for awhile, yeah. Part of why I stopped caring about what they do in gameplay and make decision to roll base on aesthetics, lore and overall appeal (might or might not be intentional by design).
    Quote Originally Posted by Oz1337 View Post
    Same here. Of course there's a few times in which some Servants have very unique gameplay, but nowadays if it's a 5*, it's most likely going to be an AoE farming unit that is better than past farming units in some regard. If it's a ST which is rare for a 5*, it will have some ability to spam their NP to be used in 90++ quests.

    If anything 4* or below tend to be the ones that are more interesting because of that, since they don't care about making them farming units.
    Farming is a mistake

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuP3ixe View Post
    What are y'all bets for the New Year's servant? Just out of curiosity
    I've been thinking some about this and here's my candidate list ordered from most likely to least likely:
    1) An OC2 Servant never hinted before: The past few NY Servants have been Koyanskaya (Tunguska leftovers) and Kotomine (Nahui Mictlan leftovers), but with OC2 not coming in December and PAPERMOON not having any significant leftovers to release, we're left to expect a preview. Could have been initially planned as OC2 leftovers if you believe the chapter was intended to release in December.
    2) Christmas leftovers: We can trust Nasu to make a character that will be wanted enough in the short span of time between the beginning of the event and New Year.
    3) Richard: To lighten the high character load demanded for this year's FsF collab.
    4) Yamato Takeru: To lighten the high character load demanded for this year's FSR collab.
    5) The Count: Same as number 1 but with a higher burden of spoilers. It's too early to drop him.
    6) Camazotz: It feels a bit late for Nahui Mictlan leftovers but he has high demand.
    7) Beni Alter: Nahui Mictlan leftovers with low demand, but still enters the candidate list only because Beni originates as the New Year character from the only New Year event.
    8) Ciel: Nasu said in the interview he wants to release Ciel when we least expect her and New Year's is too expected of a place.
    9) Abe no Seimei: We've been including Seimei in Anniversary/New Year candidate lists for some 3 years now and I see no reason to stop.
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    If Camazotz doesn't appear in Christmas, then for New Year it's either him or a preview Servant for OC2.

    And as for Christmas, apart from Camazotz, it's either Typhon, the Don Quijote theory I read before making this another "only welfare" release or my standard and always copium answer of "This is finally the time Nasu gives the OK for adding Kazuradrop and Violet into FGO".
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    Kazuradrop counts as Avalon le Fae leftovers, which is the one thing Nasu never gets tired of. She's tied with number 2 on the list for me. Same for Wryneck/Woodwose.
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    Some pantheons are depicted as Tamamo, while others are only potentially Tamamo.

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    Kazuradrop has the advantage of having her base form alrrady made according to Nasu. So hey, that's less work to do for them to turn her into a playable Servant.

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    Charl is popular enough to be Santa I think, so I can see Karl der Grosse, the Christmas Emperor, as the SSR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    8) Ciel: Nasu said in the interview he wants to release Ciel when we least expect her and New Year's is too expected of a place.
    I can't think of someplace that is unexpected yet relevant for Ciel. They won't just release her in very out-of-place event, will they?

    So with that in mind, neither NY nor Anni, which leaves standalone side event that isn't annual. Or she won't come yet until RG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oz1337 View Post
    Kazuradrop has the advantage of having her base form alrrady made according to Nasu. So hey, that's less work to do for them to turn her into a playable Servant.
    Cnoc has a base form ready too, yet they went with entirely different sprite. But I won't rule that out knowing Wada's tendency of recycling head models.



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    For Ciel I just assumed she would appear one day in Valentine like Caren and Bazett tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Charl is popular enough to be Santa I think, so I can see Karl der Grosse, the Christmas Emperor, as the SSR
    Charle with mustache and goes 'ho ho ho' like Santera would be fun to see.



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    I think enough time has passed now for them to have made a Camazotz model after his surprise popularity caught them off guard. Whether he'll be New Year or something later like White Day, I don't know.

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    That armclasp meme image with Ereshkigal and Camazotz

    underworld gods debuting in the seventh chapter of a story arc who turned out to be exponentially more popular with fans than the devs were inexplicably expecting them to be
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oz1337 View Post
    For Ciel I just assumed she would appear one day in Valentine like Caren and Bazett tbh.
    Valentine is suddenly all about baking bread instead of making chocolate, the instigator being the Mysterious Baker C, whose specialty is kare pan.



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