Thread: Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    It says Olympus at JNP 1900, maybe. So let's hope Apple doesn't drop the fruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yggdrasil View Post
    He described her as a pervert because she goes around naked.
    Quote Originally Posted by the god of world-0 View Post
    Being Trans is not what makes Da Vinci a pervert, walking around naked and wet is.
    You are mixing up the description on the materials with what Roman says.



    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    Romani calling Da Vinci a pervert and using male pronouns for her was weird because it vanished after the first couple singularities, but not like a character development vanish, more like it just stopped without comment.
    This is actually true. Though he doesn't use male pronouns initially, he stumbles for a bit and doesn't settle for either.
    I don't think ever uses it again after this first mixup though (but I'm not gonna check all the early stuff).
    Last edited by pinetree; April 9th, 2020 at 12:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Caenis is a girl though
    Caeneus is a dude

    And Vergil has him revert to a she in the underworld anyway so w/e

    Didn't Ophelia use female pronouns tho? I heard something like that from friends playing NA
    I'd have to reread his appearances so far to be sure, but I'm pretty sure the Caenis we see has experienced the totality of his life/myth, and so is Caeneus mentally even if he has his body as Caenis. At least, this is definitely a Caenis that has been assaulted by Poseidon and received his blessing, as multiple characters insult him based on that and receive an enraged response. His profile also supports that by referring to him as Caenis/Caeneus, suggesting that both names are suitable for the character as he appears in the story.

    In which case, Caenis at this stage identifies as male, and would be referred to with male pronouns. I'd assume any characters that do otherwise are choosing to describe him using his body as reference rather than his personal identity, which would explain why pronoun-usage isn't consistent between characters. Notably, the person closest to Caenis among the cast uses male pronouns, so that's probably an indication as to which Caenis prefers at least.

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    App update is available on qooapp, btw.

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    Update available for IOS too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Caenis is a girl though
    Caeneus is a dude

    And Vergil has him revert to a she in the underworld anyway so w/e

    Didn't Ophelia use female pronouns tho? I heard something like that from friends playing NA
    From what I've heard from NA, Caeneus consistently takes male pronouns there.

    From what I personally played from JP, Kadoc and Ophelia use female pronouns while Caeneus himself, Kirschtaria, Anastasia, Skadi and Koyanskaya use male pronouns. Kadoc/Anastasia and Kirschtaria/Ophelia/Skadi use opposing pronouns in the very same conversation and no one bothers to try to correct the other. The conversation just flows naturally with the mismatched pronouns.

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    Personally i think it's very telling that the Dioscuri call Caenis a woman as way to mock and humiliate him while torturing him to death so it's kind of obvious what they're going for

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    Man, if they genderbent Pollux just so they could do some twincest thing with the Dioscuri I am going to be very :|

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    And if they do do that, then hiring actual siblings to voice them is almost immeasurably high levels of :|
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandstorm77 View Post
    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Well if you do that then Nasu is transphobic because Romani describes her as a pervert, not as trans.
    author who has been slammed for sexism for years is also bad at LGBTQ stuffs, im in shock!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikewl View Post
    Personally i think it's very telling that the Dioscuri call Caenis a woman as way to mock and humiliate him while torturing him to death so it's kind of obvious what they're going for
    So that's the right way to address Caenis, got it

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    Honestly, I think the whole thing with Caenis/Caenus is a little more complicated than just "he identifies as such, so should be treated as such". You have to remember that Caenis desire to be a man stems from a misogynistic view of women as the inferior gender and her discomfort with her female body is not something that occurred naturally to her, but a scar inflicted upon her by having experienced rape.


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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Man, if they genderbent Pollux just so they could do some twincest thing with the Dioscuri I am going to be very :|
    Their descriptor says their love was unmatched and Pollux uses "Nii-sama". I'm bracing for the worst here.

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    Yeah it's over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Their descriptor says their love was unmatched and Pollux uses "Nii-sama". I'm bracing for the worst here.
    God fucking dammit. I didn't see anyone talking about incest stuff so far so I thought we were safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    God fucking dammit. I didn't see anyone talking about incest stuff so far so I thought we were safe.
    You clearly haven't watched enough Anime.

    Or maybe I have watched too much Anime, I can't tell


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    i realize now that genderbending one of the twins for the purposes of incest is fairly low on my list of things to complain about

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    Oregairu has wholesome sibling relationship between Hachiman and Komachi.

    But it's an exception to the rule, sadly.


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    Oregairu was a blessing amidst this sea of degeneracy.

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    Please, remember, that most imouto-type charas are written by authors with no younger siblings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Man, if they genderbent Pollux just so they could do some twincest thing with the Dioscuri I am going to be very :|

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    And if they do do that, then hiring actual siblings to voice them is almost immeasurably high levels of :|
    They could have easily done the same with two males, but yeah, Japan at its finest.

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