Fate/Grand Order General Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[rxrx]

Same fake news as the ones that still claim Mashu gets kidnapped at the end of the Lostbelt, which is not true. Not sure where it came from though.

Yeah, wonder where that came from.

[Gold Experience]

I feel like Hercules is a doubled edged sword here. Given the story that writer wanted to tell Herc would have to job insanely hard not warp the entire story around him. While it is a Greek lostbelt and Hercules is a Greek servant the issue is that Hercules can only really fit and be done justice in a Lostbelt that is centered around him.

Herc as a super summon instead of Saint Roma, even Camelot Gramps-esque style would do. It quite damning to see arguably the greatest hero in the world stuck as a brainless loli pet.

[rxrx]

Still needed Herk to help me finish off Demeter and Zeus though.

[mhplayer]

Same fake news as the ones that still claim Mashu gets kidnapped at the end of the Lostbelt, which is not true. Not sure where it came from though.

The beryl part definitively came from /fgog/ as i saw it there first. Probably the same for Arthur as its a meme to pretend he is the strongest servant there

[Comun]

My greatest issue with the greek dilogy is the criminal absence of Hercules. It's Zeus-damned Olympus we are talking about and Nasu still thinks it's not the time.

I'd rather have Heracles and Hera as a complete replacements for Orion and Artemis in Atlantis. It feels sorta wrong to have Orion as Grand Archer when the top man of Greece should be Herc and his ideal Class is Archer.

[GDB]

I feel like this is another instance of "Screwed by Fate/Strange Fake not being done yet".

[Kelp24]

more like "Haha he was in LB2 already silly".

[Oz1337]

So anybody who has done Aphrodite's boss fight, do you know what's the new type of debuff she puts?

I believe the icon was the typical debuff/mental debuff resist down, but with a dotted circle surrounding it (and it didn't look like buff removal resistance down since it wouldn't be a dotted circle).

Edit: Btw, I used Jason's third skill and yeah, it works on Dioscuri. I would have been surprised if it didn't frankly.

[Wandering Swordwoman]

I'd rather have Heracles and Hera as a complete replacements for Orion and Artemis in Atlantis. It feels sorta wrong to have Orion as Grand Archer when the top man of Greece should be Herc and his ideal Class is Archer.

Is he the best most famous archer in the history? No
Pretty sure it's not him in the people's mind who know greek myhth when we're talking about archer

[fire_mountain_30]

there is clear lack of antagonist in the lostbelt / lack of proper climax

Spoiler:

Zeus was pretty cool as far as LB Kings go and bonking him was superfun (even if i lost the fight 3 times before resorting to Jalter)
but after that LB kinda fell apart?

Kirsh is a fucking nothingburger. He does the thing again, then loses, then dies in the most predictable way possible.

Bitch gets btfo'd so promtly its not even fun.
Douman gets btfo'd again - speaking of him i feel he really overstayed his welcome. He exists since EOR3 and there is no advancement of his storyline whatsoever.
Kirei and Beryl dont fight.

All we get is Kirsh who loses like a chump (especially compared to how fucking hyped up he was supposed to be) and then we get 2 Caenis fights for no reason. I mean why should i care about beating this loser?

All hype stuff happens in the cutscenes after. Zeus is effectively the final boss, everything after is just lame.

Should i spoiler this? i'll spoiler this just in case

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Its especially jarring considering the whole super-dramatic Orion Artemis thing we had in the previous chapter

"Nothingburger"

I am sure getting your ass kicked by him hard last time didnt mean a thing to you

And you never beat him. You did not defeat his servant while they were a pair and you did not beat him by himself

Did yiu have a similar complaint regarding fighting Anastasia after Ivan? Skadi after Surt? Angry indian man after God Arjuna?

[Aozaki-desu]

"Nothingburger"

I am sure getting your ass kicked by him hard last time didnt mean a thing to you

And you never beat him. You did not defeat his servant while they were a pair and you did not beat him by himself

Did yiu have a similar complaint regarding fighting Anastasia after Ivan? Skadi after Surt? Angry indian man after God Arjuna?

Anastasia and Kadoc were really nice final boss duo for the opening Lostbelt
Surtr was great
Angry Indian Man was pretty fine for a tree fight, also it was right after the absolute meme that was SuperKarna vs Godjuna

and the fact that none of them were hyped up as the second coming of Marisbury helped

I felt a lot more for Kadoc's normie insecurities and his ship with Anastasia. Well he is a loser too so mostly the ship.
i felt a lot more for Ophelia the otome heroine because she fought me multiple times throughout the lostbelt and was cute.
Pepe was 100% consistent with his meme of a lostbelt.

Kirsh and Caenis fell flat as fuck after Zeus for me personally
Specifically that silly Caenis fight at the very end
i'm glad you liked it so much as to fiercely defend it

I'm still of an opinion that LB5.2 felt flat because its Grand Finale is just a setup for LB6. Kirsh dies like a punk. Caenis is irrelevant for her to fill a role of antagonist servant. Every notable character - all of them villains - just fuck off to the next chapter. Fucking Douman appears again, is ghost again, and fucks off again.

Its a really poor climax for a two-parter of key lostbelt which had 4 month gap between chapters.

[yokushi]

Its especially jarring considering the whole super-dramatic Orion Artemis thing we had in the previous chapter

But that was the second-to-last chapter of Atlantis. The very last chapter was the super underwhelming Poseidon orb + Chiron fight. It was far worse there.

Spoiler:

Wodime's ordeal is actually the thing that they give the most focus in the Lostbelt, so it makes sense for it to end in a proper send-off to him and Caenis.

[Kelp24]

hey they added a dot between LB5.2 and LB6 today

[Aozaki-desu]

hey they added a dot between LB5.2 and LB6 today

oh wow
i wonder if were in for another extra story chapter

But that was the second-to-last chapter of Atlantis. The very last chapter was the super underwhelming Poseidon orb + Chiron fight. It was far worse there.

Spoiler:

Wodime's ordeal is actually the thing that they give the most focus in the Lostbelt, so it makes sense for it to end it in a proper send-off to him and Caenis.

yeah poseidon kinda sucked but it also wasnt the end of the twoparter

[Oz1337]

I think the main issue here is that splitting a chapter in two parts was a bad idea, which is no surprise at all. You lose all the hype and momentum you had from the previous part because of the long wait, and then you have to deal with unrealistic expectations from people that are expecting great things from the next part the longer the wait is. And if the second part is not worth the wait, this obviously ends up working against you.

hey they added a dot between LB5.2 and LB6 today

Spoiler:

Probably a prologue to LB6 to unlock Musashi's entries again, since they have disappeared from the Servant list (Berserker Musashi included too).

[Entelecheia]

hey they added a dot between LB5.2 and LB6 today

A dot? :O

[Aozaki-desu]

A dot? :O

oh its not today it was already there when i cleared it yesterday, just checked

[hayate]

Yeouch.

Rewriting entries and bonds?

What happened there?

[yokushi]

yeah poseidon kinda sucked but it also wasnt the end of the twoparter

Yeah but the entire "Master/Servant" text part about Wodime and Caenis at the very end was super climatic for the both or them imho. There was some really good characterization there between both and even the parallels with Guda and Part 1. I think it was a very fitting end plot wise.

I think the main issue here is that splitting a chapter in two parts was a bad idea, which is no surprise at all. You lose all the hype and momentum you had from the previous part because of the long wait, and then you have to deal with unrealistic expectations from people that are expecting great things from the next part the longer the wait is. And if the second part is not worth the wait, this obviously ends up working against you.

I dunno, as far I saw the main consensus from the JP community is that it was quite awesome all around. It's maybe a bit too soon but the reactions seem positive.

[Gold Experience]

Olympus seems fairly understaffed, while on the other hand Atlanis had pretty tight cast with some characters barely getting any exposure.