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Thread: Fate/Apocrypha Vol. 2 + 3 (no spoilers)

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    You forgot rewriting the prose and dialogue from scratch so the English version doesn't make Higashide sound like a dry Wikipedia writer and character voices are conveyed in the unique forms each of them is supposed to take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    You forgot rewriting the prose and dialogue from scratch so the English version doesn't make Higashide sound like a dry Wikipedia writer and character voices are conveyed in the unique forms each of them is supposed to take.
    I've been reading the previous translations for Volume 1, 2, 4 and what is done for 3, and I'll keep the Anime in mind as I do the write up. Hopefully the characters are not dry. Also some times it switches between first and third person between paragraphs, I assume I just need to rewrite it to be one over the other.

    The others have from what I've read stuck to third person.

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    I think you're severily underestimating the difference between human and machine literary translations.

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    Damn, guy sounds like he's got a point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrikow View Post
    Damn, guy sounds like he's got a point!
    Except the part about puns, puns are integral, a major backbone of any work.

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    Look at what you've wrought, Canon.

    Look at what the masses turn to in your absence.
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    canon finish apo vol 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Are translators ok
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    Punching out some nerd doesn't make you a better magus.

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    Not with posters like LeperKing around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All fictions View Post
    Are translators ok

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    That's ok. Bouts of narcissism are pretty par for the course... Oh. Oh no, he's delirious!

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    Last Encore opinions are the true IQ test.

    Nasu himself said it.

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    Well look I'm just taking a shot in the dark, I'd rather see about having the five volumes complete than 3 and 5 being eternally unfinished. I could just post the machine translations here and yet everyone who wants to take a crack at it. Yet me know if anyone's interested. To be fair a redditor came up with a translation which reads pretty well based of these machine ones.

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    that's what the redditor did six years ago there's also a prologue I found. At least it's a start.
    Last edited by Comun; March 27th, 2023 at 08:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeperKing View Post
    To be fair a redditor came up with a translation which reads pretty well based of these machine ones.
    Look, the issue here is that it might read well to you (as in, having proper grammar, sentence structure, and flow) but that doesn't mean it becomes a good translation. MTL can't convey proper context, tone, inferences in text, or even slightly more complicated sentence structure. The fact that you could edit the resulting English to "look right" doesn't mean it is right. If I take someone's dogshit math exam answer and add in neat presentation for all the formulae, fancy signs for the units, and just generally structure it well, yeah, chances are someone who doesn't know anything about math will look at it and go "yeah that looks like math alright", but it's still dogshit and incorrect.

    Honestly, it'd almost be better to beg​ for someone to finish the translation than to use MTL. At least at that point there's some level of standards intact.
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    Ugh cokesakto no no no
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    your ability to be wrong about literally everything you post is truly astounding. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, but you haven't been right once.
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    The gay pics were the most entertaining thing going on in this discussion.

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    As a wise man once said
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    It's just that I'm a total nerd when it comes to languages and translation, so it really fucking irritates me when I see people disregarding the razor thin balancing act that goes into translation and acting like the quality is determined solely by readability of the final product. You might make an argument that Cokesakto is a much better writer than the mirror moon team, but to call him a better "translator" is like pulling down your pants and taking a big, messy shit all over mirror moon, the FSN translation, and the very art of translation itself.

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    He's got da faiyaaaa

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    Quote Originally Posted by fumei View Post
    If I take someone's dogshit math exam answer and add in neat presentation for all the formulae, fancy signs for the units, and just generally structure it well, yeah, chances are someone who doesn't know anything about math will look at it and go "yeah that looks like math alright", but it's still dogshit and incorrect.
    Me doing my thesis for real no cap

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    That's ok. Bouts of narcissism are pretty par for the course... Oh. Oh no, he's delirious!
    Let him fucking cook and thank you for removing that abomination

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    i promise im still chipping it bit by bit

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    Currently (like, actually) finishing Apocrypha 3

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    Suddenly got reminded volume 3 chapter 4 isnt translated for some reason but whole volume 4 is. What's the story behind this?

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