Lord El-Melloi II Case Files

[You]

its been revamped so he's like the 3rd most attractive man in the Clock Tower, but it's not like he's got much competition other than like Bram and maybe Melvin.

No one likes melvin though

[yokushi]

its been revamped so he's like the 3rd most attractive man in the Clock Tower, but it's not like he's got much competition other than like Bram and maybe Melvin.

I think the idea was that Wills was one of those, so Waver should be 2nd place now. So maybe with time he will be 1st like Character Material claimed.

[Comun]

If the other was Heine, Waver already took the trophy.

[Leftovers]

The quote wasn't about him being the hottest man in the Clock Tower, it was about being number one on female students' getting-laid wishlist.

basically they're all hot for teacher, don't kinkshame

[mami-kouga]

Read the novels, I just realized the anime upped the ship tease between Waver and Gray (like changing Trisha's demonstration of her mystic eyes from Waver catching a kettle to him catching Gray)

I approve

[jennajayfeather]

I think the idea was that Wills was one of those, so Waver should be 2nd place now. So maybe with time he will be 1st like Character Material claimed.

In fairness, I forgot Wills existed

[asterism42]

The quote wasn't about him being the hottest man in the Clock Tower, it was about being number one on female students' getting-laid wishlist

They want what they can't have

[airik]

Read the novels, I just realized the anime upped the ship tease between Waver and Gray (like changing Trisha's demonstration of her mystic eyes from Waver catching a kettle to him catching Gray)I approve

I don’t think Sanda’s intent was really to ship tease

Some very rough partial translation below, please feel free to correct me if you see any mistakes. (Especially since I based this heavily on the Chinese translation provided in Teiba.)

22. Gray
The female protagonist (protagonist) of this series. Lord El Melloi II's disciple.Gray was a character who was designed in almost the beginning of the plan as the Watson in a detective novel. Casefile's plan had went through twists and turns before it was actualized, but she is the only one who remained basically the same. She has "The girl who possesses the best qualities as a gravekeeper yet is utmostly terrified of ghosts. And the noble phantasm she holds is of that King Arthur's..." as her character slogan.

I’ve decided that she has the route keeping her distance from Lord II in the very beginning and slowly deepens their bond at the same time of when serialisation was decided. The general direction of "Gray cherishes him very much, but it is the bond of a master-disciple instead of love" was also decided back then. Their bond has came a long way from how she described Waver as a despicable master in volume one.

Other than that, even though Lord II's "She probably is a descendant of King Arthur's distant relatives" was not a temporary phrase, but truthfully saying, her family is closer to being injected with King Arthur's body factors instead. Gray's family is the factor of King Arthur's body, while Corpse King was injected with King Arthur's mind/psyche, and slept til the moment came.

[mami-kouga]

I don’t think Sanda’s intent was really to ship tease

Some very rough partial translation below, please feel free to correct me if you see any mistakes. (Especially since I based this heavily on the Chinese translation provided in Teiba.)

22. Gray
The female protagonist (protagonist) of this series. Lord El Melloi II's disciple.Gray was a character who was designed in almost the beginning of the plan as the Watson in a detective novel. Casefile's plan had went through twists and turns before it was actualized, but she is the only one who remained basically the same. She has "The girl who possesses the best qualities as a gravekeeper yet is utmostly terrified of ghosts. And the noble phantasm she holds is of that King Arthur's..." as her character slogan.

I’ve decided that she has the route keeping her distance from Lord II in the very beginning and slowly deepens their bond at the same time of when serialisation was decided. The general direction of "Gray cherishes him very much, but it is the bond of a master-disciple instead of love" was also decided back then. Their bond has came a long way from how she described Waver as a despicable master in volume one.

Other than that, even though Lord II's "She probably is a descendant of King Arthur's distant relatives" was not a temporary phrase, but truthfully saying, her family is closer to being injected with King Arthur's body factors instead. Gray's family is the factor of King Arthur's body, while Corpse King was injected with King Arthur's mind/psyche, and slept til the moment came.

Oh I'm aware of that, the novels are a bit less vague on that since we can actually see Gray's thoughts though even then since she's oblivious to a lot of things it was still a bit shaken. Though I don't know if I'd describe it as "relationship writing fumble" since its remarkably easy to read it romantically. Well regardless their relationship is sweet.

I was just surprised how the anime added to it, like the aforementioned "catching Gray" scene and the whole "Gray wants to give Waver a gift" subplot.

[CO9p5JMGv!p9]

waver has the gays and has no time for a girl infected with saberface cancer

[warellis]

For some reason I always thought Waver was sort of like forever kind of pining after Iskander, and that he was possibly a single-target gay (as in only wanting Iskander) but I can't remember if that ever was true or not.

[Reign]

Even if it's not explicit it is really really easy to read him that way.

[mami-kouga]

waver has the gays and has no time for a girl infected with saberface cancer

He's got enough time if he's still letting her assist him years after she'd no longer be his student

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Even if it's not explicit it is really really easy to read him that way.

Can't deny that even if I think it would be healthier if he calmed down about it

[ballinamon]

I have to wonder the limits and consequences of the Saberface experiment-thing. What if, for a miscalculation or a unforeseen consequence all possibly decendents of Gray would get Saberface from now on?

Even if it's not explicit it is really really easy to read him that way.

He kinda seems to have get over it in SF, well until Gilgamesh appeared to open old wounds.

[Dragolord09]

https://forums.sufficientvelocity.co.../post-14647232

Some Case Files Mats stuff.

[Reign]

It was mentioned at one point that Gray's family/village is that of Artoria's distant relatives, but Sanda confirmed the more accurate description is family injected with Artoria's bio-traits.

We Final Fantasy VII now?

[Skull]

I suppose that makes more sense than "distant relatives", but what on earth is a bio-trait? :/

[You]

Like how Saber has the factor of the red dragon
the cult has the factor of saber

[Rafflesiac]

implanted ahoges

[Reign]

The Les Saber Terribles project.