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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Squirrel View Post
    This Kay goes extremely hard. But on the other hand, there's nothing incompatible between this and his other design. He just put on a helmet and a cloak, didn't he?
    The shape of the armor around his neck seems different to me too? That might just be a different artists thing though.



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    It's hard to say for sure because we don't really have good full body shots of Kay's novel design. There's just this and a silhouette from the movie (identified by the shoulder plates). But based on manga Kay's more worn and chain looking outfit I don't think it's the same as novel Kay's plate.

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    We’ll see later but I think the reasonable assumption for now at least is underneath all of the extra stuff they gave him his novel design is still mostly there.

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    If nothing else, it smells like it could be an Ascension in FGO.

    Also, while we're on the subject. I've always wondered and now seeing that Kay's right eye is shadowed in the manga, is that combined with his novel depiction seemingly lacking a pupil in the same eye meant to imply that he only has one working eye?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noa View Post
    The shape of the armor around his neck seems different to me too? That might just be a different artists thing though.



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    It's hard to say for sure because we don't really have good full body shots of Kay's novel design. There's just this and a silhouette from the movie (identified by the shoulder plates). But based on manga Kay's more worn and chain looking outfit I don't think it's the same as novel Kay's plate.
    The neck part is the same, or at least the throat part. Or close enough. The actual neck+shoulders part seems to be gone though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    Also, while we're on the subject. I've always wondered and now seeing that Kay's right eye is shadowed in the manga, is that combined with his novel depiction seemingly lacking a pupil in the same eye meant to imply that he only has one working eye?
    That or he too has a Mystic Eye. Wouldn't be the first time they added it gratuitously to a character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Squirrel View Post
    That or he too has a Mystic Eye. Wouldn't be the first time they added it gratuitously to a character.
    Certainly possible. The reason I'm leaning towards disability would be because it would pair him up thematically with his eternal bromance with Bedivere. I swear I've seen that in a shonen manga or anime before where two characters have some kind of impediment and they have to cover for each other's blind side in battle.
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    I like this change. I need every single one of Arthur's court to get historically accurate redesign, actual Roman Britain chainmail, away from anachronistic fantasy plate armor.

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    I like this change. I need every single one of Arthur's court to get historically accurate redesign, actual Roman Britain chainmail, away from anachronistic fantasy plate armor.
    Wait for fate/prototype knights for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takashi View Post
    Wait for fate/prototype knights for that
    Have you even looked at Arthur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Squirrel View Post
    Have you even looked at Arthur.
    I mean redesign for entire kotr only gonna happen through the prototype.
    It's definitely not gonna happen to the existing knights

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    Again, have you seen Arthur? If he gets generic fantasy pseudo-Gothic plate armour, everyone will.
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    Honestly, with the exception of Mordred, I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of Arthur's version of the KoRT just look identical inexplicably to avoid wasting time on character redesigns for people who are only likely to be seen in Arthur's flashbacks and whatnot.
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    It's not like Arash, Bryn, Paracelsus, etc. look any different between Prototype and other settings. Gil, Merlin, Arthur, and Mordred seem to be the exceptions not the rule.

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    Arthur's line for the Idiots of the Round implies they're the same.
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    I'm pretty sure the only reason Proto Mordred is different is that he shares the backstory of being a clone of Arthur.
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    It's clearly his first ascension design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    If nothing else, it smells like it could be an Ascension in FGO.

    Also, while we're on the subject. I've always wondered and now seeing that Kay's right eye is shadowed in the manga, is that combined with his novel depiction seemingly lacking a pupil in the same eye meant to imply that he only has one working eye?
    It looks a lot like Add’s designs on him so I just assume that it might be a quirk with Add’s projection
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noa View Post
    The shape of the armor around his neck seems different to me too? That might just be a different artists thing though.



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    It's hard to say for sure because we don't really have good full body shots of Kay's novel design. There's just this and a silhouette from the movie (identified by the shoulder plates). But based on manga Kay's more worn and chain looking outfit I don't think it's the same as novel Kay's plate.
    Might look the same beneath the helmet. Remember, in the novels, Kay was "hazy" to normal observers like he would vanish into thin air, and Gray only gets a good look at him at the very end when he sacrifices himself and deploy his Virtual NP against the Bird of Hermes.

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    For the first time.

    For the first time, only for a moment, I saw his face. That was probably because of the large concentration of Magical Energy that he had gathered for the simulation of a Noble Phantasm.

    It was a face that looked slightly troubled, yet carried a smile that looked like it belonged to someone with a terrible personality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by All fictions View Post
    Might look the same beneath the helmet. Remember, in the novels, Kay was "hazy" to normal observers like he would vanish into thin air
    Huh, interesting. I wonder why.
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    Because he's not a Servant here, he's an AI copy made with Atlas tech projected outside of Add. Just using his NP once as a Virtual Noble Phantasm ("virtual" as in the same word use for Lord Chaldeas before it became Lord Camelot) is enough to burn out his Spirit Origin and kill him.

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