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Thread: Fate/Hollow Ataraxia. The validation and TL patch will be finished when it's finished. Stop asking.

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    Also I would personally play a rough translation of HA than none at all. Any misunderstandings can be cleared up later. Isn't that how FSN was handled?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    Being a Master serves two functions.

    One is to anchor them to the world, like somebody stopping a balloon from floating away. The other is to give them prana.

    So she can still be a Master and do the first part while ignoring the second part.
    Three parts actually, the third part is being able to order them, a right given by who possesses the Command Spells.

    But yes this is correct, this is basically the explanation given for how Lancer could survive. Even with Kotomine dead, Lancer suggests "A contract is probably in force somewhere" which is alluding to the not actually dead Bazett who is his anchor and supplier, even if Kotomine stole the role to order him around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    Also I would personally play a rough translation of HA than none at all. Any misunderstandings can be cleared up later. Isn't that how FSN was handled?
    repeatedly.
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    Well in FSN Kotomine is the supplier and anchor too.

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    repeatedly.
    Sure, but I'd still rather have it than not. Half the community gets into the franchise because of that type of stuff anyway.
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    Wasn't KT community translated, I remember that having some REAL rough edges.

    Red Demon God is a word salad thanks to old Japanese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    derp

    indeed.

    you know, when I called you out for going out of your way to find a bad lens to veiw things under, that wasnt an invitation to find a worse one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacktheinfinite101 View Post
    (BTW this is Koto speaking
    pls no
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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post

    Sure, but I'd still rather have it than not. Half the community gets into the franchise because of that type of stuff anyway.
    wasnt saying it was a bad thing. I was agreeing with you (more or less)
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    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    I believe that he needs helping hands, and it's nice if you actually bring those to him. The problem is that when I see you talk to people that can't even read and go "welcome aboard". Doesn't ranma need people that are better than him, not worse?
    Uhhh, I'm going to assume Ranmafan is Koto tier at translating. He doesn't need superior rune skills, he needs numbers. You try doing that many lines on your own, it's suicide.



    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    Yeah. And then you make statements like if you leave the project flatlines. It already does, that's the thing. The validation has nothing to do with your work.
    I'm going with what mAc said about sheep herding. Right now I am the closest thing to an organizer this project has in the absence of the official one. If I left, these people would either scatter, or they'd be so unorganized and there wouldn't be someone who consistently DL's and adds updates to the TL to a coherent patch to make sure nobody else comes in an fucks it up later. Basically, so long as the official team is MIA, I'm the stand in for patch keeping and developing.

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    Well in FSN Kotomine is the supplier and anchor too.
    You sure? There's a rule that if a Master has two or more Servants, each Servant has their abilties cut in half. Gilgamesh was just as powerful as he was in FZ and Lancer didn't seem very underpowered to me.

    It's much like what happened with Rider. The "official" Master is Kotomine, but the one anchoring Lancer is Bazett, just how if Sakura was killed even as Rider was with Shinji, she'd still vanish anyway because she'd lose her real anchor.
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    So as to stimulate the reader's imagination, I try not to write too clearly about mechanics and characters' inner workings.
    Quote Originally Posted by UnlimitedBladeWorks
    In all honesty the Ufo Anime should've included a switch that let people chose what route they wanted to watch.

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    He doesn't need superior rune skills, he needs numbers
    That is impressively wrong!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotonoha View Post
    pls no
    koto

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    Well, Kotomine probably didn't actually give him much mana just to troll him. That is where the whole "bad Master stats" come in. Otherwise Lancer would still have Bazett stats. And you can't split the Master responsibilities, only Kayneth was able to do that.

    And Gil was powered up since he had those orphans. Kotomine just didn't care what happened to Lancer. Bazett was officially out of the picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacktheinfinite101 View Post
    Uhhh, I'm going to assume Ranmafan is Koto tier at translating. He doesn't need superior rune skills, he needs numbers. You try doing that many lines on your own, it's suicide.
    I thought he validates solo for consistency. Again that requires people that are actually able to spot mistakes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jacktheinfinite101 View Post
    I'm going with what mAc said about sheep herding. Right now I am the closest thing to an organizer this project has in the absence of the official one. If I left, these people would either scatter, or they'd be so unorganized and there wouldn't be someone who consistently DL's and adds updates to the TL to a coherent patch to make sure nobody else comes in an fucks it up later. Basically, so long as the official team is MIA, I'm the stand in for patch keeping and developing.
    See I think here's the main difference between me and toby on this issue, I don't care about partial patches. I want the actually validated 100%, what you are doing isn't really contributing to that goal because we will need the actual project leads for the go-ahead on that one.

    I guess that explains why for him you are the savior and for me you are the guy letting people with machine-tl-tier skills fuck up a project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacktheinfinite101 View Post
    You sure? There's a rule that if a Master has two or more Servants, each Servant has their abilties cut in half. Gilgamesh was just as powerful as he was in FZ and Lancer didn't seem very underpowered to me.

    It's much like what happened with Rider. The "official" Master is Kotomine, but the one anchoring Lancer is Bazett, just how if Sakura was killed even as Rider was with Shinji, she'd still vanish anyway because she'd lose her real anchor.

    errr...gil is actually lower stated then he was in Zero, and he is also getting auxillary mana from the orphans, and Nasu is always going on and on about how nerfed lancer is, both from no fame and he occasionally references lancer not having any particular mana boost. Hell, he should be considerably stronger then Zero Lancer but zero lancer would kick his ass because he gets a lot of prana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotonoha View Post
    That is impressively wrong!
    If you mean the validation quality. I talked with Mew about it and he thinks the same thing I do. When Ranmafan validated those scenes with errors, he likely was busy/in a rush/whatever and instead of looking at each line individually, he just did a scan and said "this looks good, VALID."
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    And I've organized stuff like this before; everyone has a natural inclination to do things on their own time, so you end up with everyone saying "I'll just do it tomorrow" or "the other guy will do it" and then before you know it it's been six months and everyone forgot the project even exists. So you need someone to nag coordinate everyone, if everybody isn't super driven to complete the project.
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    also worth noting that just sitting around with your thumb up your ass dreamily waiting for your prince the awol project head to one day waltz back in is less useful then doing what you can in the mean time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    I thought he validates solo for consistency. Again that requires people that are actually able to spot mistakes.



    See I think here's the main difference between me and toby on this issue, I don't care about partial patches. I want the actually validated 100%, what you are doing isn't really contributing to that goal because we will need the actual project leads for the go-ahead on that one.

    I guess that explains why for him you are the savior and for me you are the guy letting people with machine-tl-tier skills fuck up a project.

    The people I have working on it are not people with machine-tl-teir skills. Compare Caren II form how it WAS to how it is now that Dozenagent looked at it and you will see a MAJOR improvement, because these are people who know how to spot mistakes, and worked very hard, and quite frankly, I am less offended by your attitude towards me as I am offended by you pissing on their legitimate hard work when you have no idea and are just making a bad assumption.

    Say what you want about me, but Dozenagent and EDreamer both worked their asses off to help and they are very much competent to help.

    Considering we have spotted mistakes in the VALIDATED text Buster, I hate to say it, but I legit could out a superior 100% patch ATM if I have people look over this shit. Hell the official patches couldn't even support English locale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    I thought he validates solo for consistency. Again that requires people that are actually able to spot mistakes.



    See I think here's the main difference between me and toby on this issue, I don't care about partial patches. I want the actually validated 100%, what you are doing isn't really contributing to that goal because we will need the actual project leads for the go-ahead on that one.

    I guess that explains why for him you are the savior and for me you are the guy letting people with machine-tl-tier skills fuck up a project.
    You act like a perfect 100% is actually on the table or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paitouch View Post
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