I'm just amused, since this is another possible exposure to the virus for Congress. After all, this requires them all to be present as I understand it, including the quarantined and infected.
I'm just amused, since this is another possible exposure to the virus for Congress. After all, this requires them all to be present as I understand it, including the quarantined and infected.
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[16:43] <Twelveseal> Phallus in wonderland sounds like some bad loli-rape KC fanfic
[16:43] <@Sei> THAT'S what i wanna see
Eh, there are alternatives. Bush Jr. was hit with a shoe, imagine if it had been something actually capable of harm. I mean, the situations aren't the same, and the actual results of both are arguable, but fuck, the French and Russian revolutions showed a general uprising can defeat better-armed and better-trained forces.Originally Posted by Twelveseal
But ok, let's stick to something more workable in the current sociopolitical context (though also very, very difficult to pull off): strikes. If Uncle Fatcat Pennybags doesn't get his because none of his drones are showing up to work, I'm pretty sure he'll learn - much like the smarter of the Italian aristocrats learned back in the unification - that it's better to give some concessions than risk losing everything. "Better lose the saddle than the horse", and all that.
"But Spoony, they're just going to send the police to beat up on the strikers!" Yes, they will. That has always been the history of fighting for workers' rights. Which is understandable, really; no one wants to risk suffering or death unless they can't see any alternative. What is much less understandable is the whole bunch of jumped-up proles thinking they're within spitting distance of the ruling class. So maybe start by setting the "middle class" on fire, then move on to the real movers and shakers.
Fair point, though it doesn't help much when it comes to dealing with multinational corporations that ship out to leech off easier prey than cave. It's especially hard when you're dealing with a population that's often prevented from unionizing and can't make enough money to get more than one paycheck out from financial collapse.
As for the middle class, they're prone to carrying out the exact same BS as the upper crust here. They're a buffer for the rich that no party really wants to upset precisely because they become the new rulers in a theoretically successful revolution, since the proles don't have the means to revolt without them. As such, both parties strive to keep them fat and happy, convinced they're almost the elites and comfortable in tge knowledge that they're better off than the poor, and their kids will be better still if they just provide them with the right opportunities, pay for their good education, and send them to schools that all-but-guarantee a good career like any good parent would.
Which in turn ends up screwing proles out of the chance for upward mobility.
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[16:43] <Twelveseal> Phallus in wonderland sounds like some bad loli-rape KC fanfic
[16:43] <@Sei> THAT'S what i wanna see
Point of fact, there are a good deal of strikes that have happened in this administration, particularly amongst teachers that netted good results on a small scale, but in the overall picture because of the overwhelming corruption, those fatcats usually can call the bluff and then some, so it's pretty much an agonizing inching forward when a mile is sorely needed.
Even Bernie's fight to have Amazon have a $15 minimum wage was a struggle, but overall, barely cut into their shady business practices.
So definite uphill with ice roads during a blizzard battle to do and this administration making the elites more brazen in spite of protesting, picketing, strikes, and resignations.
Seems to be slightly political theater here. Looking at his 11 part tweet, he seems adamant that the Senate's workings on the bill were sufficient before the House could get hold of it and that it's all Pelosi's fault it has the fat it does right now.
Sure, say that you want more money for the people NOW, but what was said before with all the corporate bailouts that were going on before it was touched up? Was there any dissent then? You want a rewrite of the bill that cuts off that huge payout to companies like Boeing? I'd agree, but I doubt you'll sign off on that. Just like if they tried to cut a 13k check to every American, I am sure you wouldn't hesitate to shut that down as socialism. Please.
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So Biden maybe did a little rape huh, that’s cool
Real shame we have to make him our nominee, would be cool if there was someone else in the race but I just can’t think of anyone
Well, what is waiting in the wings is a faint whisper that possibly the establishment backing Biden is seeing the rotting tree and is waiting for someone they can latch onto that's left.
They just loathe Sanders too much and he has cemented this false electability argument that hampers him. I have even heard Cuomo as being a possible dark horse if they decide to abandon Biden at the eleventh hour.
If there was only a way to stamp out the "these policies are not viable" narrative and "he can't win" crap, then you could have a turnaround. With the current situation, since Fauci is getting more support than Trump is for being reliably knowledgeable (which should be a duh, but we have people suggesting using blow dryers to kill a virus, so that is where we are at), really solid common sense arguments distilled the right way can have an effect.
People are trying to relegate the spin, it's just hard to keep the momentum, and have the same reach to keep out the bullshit of the MSM.
At least the virus doesn't discriminate.
You at least get the funny image of people that said Bernie was an awful sexist based on a story by Warren now saying that Biden never did anything, the accuser is not credible and him sniffing and being handsy doesn't matter.
its not worth anything but i mean its there
[04:55] Lianru: i3uster is actuallly quite cute
Biden may have raped but at least he raped less than Trump
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absolute state of American election
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People point this out like something that is beyond the pale but I mean that is the entire calculus behind the election isn't it? He's not as bad as Trump so who cares if he is bad.
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People's inability to associate two such ideas is why Donald Trump and Boris Johnson are heads of government.
I'm also rather pro-gun. Would the NRA be happy if we made psychological testing mandatory... but they were the ones who had to approve a person? Sounds like a good way to give them more power and make everything safer.
Or the idea you can want universal healthcare and decriminalize abortion but offer judicial ones as well (Denmark almost made that one into law, then it was sent to limbo). Or the idea that you want to nationalize vital infrastructure like power and water, but would happily privatize airlines, ports, et al.
Or the idea that you want gender neutral legislation! Or legalizing cannabis! And euthanasia! But at the same time want to allow doctors to become "conscientious objectors" to abortion or euthanasia and opt out of the procedure.
But NUH! America even when in flames can never do things half way.
"Timmy: You guys don't do anything halfway, do you?
Cosmo: Nope, We're two halves of a whole idiot."
NRA evaluating if people are qualified to have guns.
Keeping things safer.
Pick one.
Also, no, doctors can't simply be "conscientious objectors". Turn it around and see just how silly that idea is: "this man is a right-winger with a hard-on against progressive legislation, I'm opting out of treating him!"
The idea that "doing things halfway" is always the better choice is an idiotic fallacy. There's no ethical or sane way to "do things halfway" between - oh, I don't know, just off the top of my head, "don't keep people in cages" and "keep people in cages".
His core argument is right though, people's actual political opinions do not neatly fall on party lines in 99% of the cases.
[04:55] Lianru: i3uster is actuallly quite cute
Keep half of a person in cages.
Government evaluates. NRA simply reviews it and then local office decides what the hell to do. Essentially, test score and then NRA approval. Fail one, and no guns for you.
Also, conscientious objection is a thing in Europe. It doesn't states you cannot do life saving stuff.
For one, if a woman wants an abortion and her life will not be endangered, why should I accept? Someone else can.
Also, we already "keep some in cages". We call it prison.
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It's almost as if a person couldn't be a UHC loving, NRA member... or support gay marriage and oppose abortion... Or want tax breaks and nationalizations with the reforms the state is promoting.
Like, I'd raise taxes for Apple, but slash them for the corner store around the park of my neighborhood. Also, promote spending on green solutions, but make sure those dirty job people move to the new ones instead of just leaving them to rot and letting coastal elites have all the shit.
The NRA is a private organisation with a vested interest in selling more guns. They should have absolutely no say on whether a person is qualified or not to own firearms.
I'd argue that people's actual political opinions often matter less than whether they see themselves as represented by specific politicians. To put it another way: they're not voting for a political platform, they're voting for the candidate they "stan".
Yes but that is not an ideal state of affairs and I think better political education and socialization can mitigate that.
[04:55] Lianru: i3uster is actuallly quite cute
As long as you inform the patient in a timely manner AND refers her to another medical professional who can and will perform the operation, yes, AND ensure she receives appropriate medical treatment.
It's not exactly "I don't want to do this, sucks to be you".
Leaving aside the ethical concerns regarding prisons, are you being deliberately obtuse in ignoring the reference to ICE's raids and detention centres?Also, we already "keep some in cages". We call it prison.
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Oh, it's an absolutely awful state of affairs, and I agree! Though here in Brazil (though I'm told it's not much different in the US?), when people try to provide said political education, they're accused of "communist indoctrination".
At least here that's starting to die down. Sanders and Warren would have been even less successful otherwise. Consider how long Bernie was a Senator before he was able to break out, so to speak.
Ofc, good luck convincing certain sections of the population; Yang's Freedom Dividend was called that because calling it a UBI polled poorly among Conservatives as being Communist. Literally just adding the words Freedom and Dividend let them love the idea.
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[16:43] <Twelveseal> Phallus in wonderland sounds like some bad loli-rape KC fanfic
[16:43] <@Sei> THAT'S what i wanna see
and if you call a condition-free corporate bailout that would normally at the very least guarantee oversight if not equity a stimulus package democrats love it
universal, great tactic
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