Originally Posted by Twelveseal
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Cute but terrible. Duly noted.
Huh. So that's why the Reps are so keen on pushing State bankruptcies...
Last edited by Twelveseal; April 26th, 2020 at 01:05 PM.
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[16:43] <Twelveseal> Phallus in wonderland sounds like some bad loli-rape KC fanfic
[16:43] <@Sei> THAT'S what i wanna see
Yeah I saw that. I also noted that it didn’t address the digital penetration at all.
hey, if you don’t have the logic on your side, argue the emotion so people don’t think right?
/guess pounding the desk is next. BTW on that note Tara now says she can’t remember where the reported incident happened. Now it’s just “one of the basements” which came out when people were trying to locate the area so that they could sync up the reported incident with people who could be confirmed as in the area, except whoops! CANT REMEMBER WHERE, no way to gather evidence!
but no, believe me unequivocally. Totes.
If only there was a document that could provide clarity to the exact details she reported on back when this occurred.
you mean the report she said she filed, received her mandatory copy of then lost, and nobody can find any record of and the lady she said she gave it too says she never received it?
yeah you are right, if frikken only. Funny how all the factual stuff that might actually help her corroborate her story beyond "If you dont believe me you support rape!" has either been lost or forgotten huh?
I mean the report that the University of Delaware claims to have on record but can't release it due to it being sealed. Of course, it can come out 2 years after Biden retires from public office.
But yes, keep up the victim blaming act. How dare she forget exact details on something that happened nearly 30 years ago, a traumatic event even that lends itself to forgetting details. How dare she only start to gain traction on her case when she's been trying for over a year to get someone, such as the Time's Up movement, to look into her story. How dare her mother, one of the few people she told any details about this case, die before her story started to be reported on.
Dr. Ford had significantly less information backing her claim up against Kavanaugh, so why exactly is there a difference when it comes to treating Tara's story?
I think I remember saying a while ago that I didn’t actually consider all of the allegations against kavanaugh to be slam dunks either. More to the point, fine, don’t criticize if you don’t feel it’s warranted. That doesn’t change the fact that Tara raede has not produced any actual evidence this occurred. This isn’t even a innocent until proven guilty situation. It’s “this doesn’t have any logical backing. It doesn’t match other stories and she has changed her own repeatedly.” But somehow, saying this woman does not appear to be telling the truth makes me the bad guy.
but straight up. While I won’t say that the rape didn’t occur since I wasn’t there. I do know if I was a juror in a civil trial (note I said civil trial, so not reasonable doubt but just simple reasonable belief) I would be voting down the charge. Hell it wouldn’t take me an hour’s deliberation either.
You want belief from somebody who doesn’t already want to believe it because it exonerates their previously held beliefs of matches their previous dispositions? You, and she are going to need actual factual evidence, not wild eyed accusations.
Evidence would certainly be nice to have, but I guess I'll have to settle for the closest available thing in how people like Ryan Grim and Rich McHugh, two journalists that actually seem to care about their reputation as investigative journalists, think there's something tangible to her claims.
see I like that NPR article 12 linked a while back. It was handled in my book professionally and without notable bias. Here is what we have, here is what we don’t have, here is where things changed, here is where family member so and so said they believed her, here is where she said one thing happened and the reporting agency said didn’t etcetera. Make your own judgement.
good piece of reporting.
to which my response is again as someone who by the way, had Biden as third or fourth string, so it’s not like I am super unlimited all Biden all the time, this is not swaying. It doesn’t make you look more credible when you endlessly repeat it. And just as I have heard many a sanders supporter say that Biden and his camp are going to have to convince them Biden’s promises are genuine, you and yours are going to have to be able to make a case that this woman’s claims are worth hearing to people who don’t already want to start with the idea that joe Biden is evil. Because as far as I can tell beginning with that presumption is the only way that as things currently stand Tara raede’s accusations have merit.
Listen, when your defence is basically a combination of 'LALALALALALA NOT LISTENING' and ad hominem, it does not help your case in the slightest.
My defense is show me the evidence. It’s not that I disagree with the evidence. It’s that as far as I can tell there isn’t any.
if I come out and say that julee, the lady I worked for 10 years ago* during my internship raped me, and then was unable to indicate where this happened or provide any physiological evidence to this, would anyone believe Julee had raped me?
the answer is they shouldn’t. Maybe they hedge their bets and say well can you give me some more details? Which is exactly what I’m doing. But until you actually see something it goes into the hearsay bin. in no way should Julee’s life change due to my statements as things stand.
* I actually don’t know how long ago I worked for her. Real sweet lady actually.
While it's not good for Tara that she lacks some items to lend further credibility to her claim, some actual hard evidence could exist in the University of Delaware's records. What people are calling out about the #MeToo movement is that they aren't making any effort to actually getting those records despite trying to press forward with far less when it was Kavanaugh facing multiple accusations, with the most credible being Dr. Ford's. The best thing that can be said about Dr. Ford's is that she made very few, if any, changes to her story.
However, the circumstantial evidence behind Dr. Ford's claim was far worse than Tara's, as can be cited with things like telling Tara her immediate family (Tara's brother corroborates her statements, that video shows that her mother was aware of some sort of sexual harassment claim from Tara back then) and even people who weren't directly told about the situation, such as interns that Tara was originally in charge of noting that Tara was abruptly removed from her mentor position.
I'm inclined that something did happen to Tara. Was it rape? Who knows? But what I've seen about Tara's case is that Biden's staff acted in what could be a retaliatory fashion against Tara back in 1993, for reasons that are currently murky. I'm inclined to believe that this document going into more details about the incident exists, and find it odd that the #MeToo and Time's Up people aren't attempting to get the document from the University of Delaware.
Anything beyond this is conspiratorial territory, but it does seem kinda fishy that some of the top members of these organizations have direct links to Biden, which can establish a conflict of interest when it comes to investigating Tara's claim.
I think what you're seeing is advanced normie brain where peoples real world politics often dont line up along ideological lines.
Hardcore left anti biden guys are just gonna stay home.
[04:55] Lianru: i3uster is actuallly quite cute
Another thing I learnt from America during this pandemic is that most don't really mind if they die from it or that their state and federal government and not doing enough/making it worse in trying to protect the people from it. They just bow down to whatever people says and seems to lose their backbone all of a sudden.
How did you come to that conclusion?
Spoiler:
Making it is just thew news I watch. People asking for opening despite the virus running rampant because they need to work to survive, yet they don't bother to demand their government to do more instead. This is a good time for force changes, but they choose to sell themselves as slaves instead. People not doing much despite big companies snatching small business loans, people not doing anything despite bailing out the rich. Yet they do stupid stuff like drinking disinfectants, going to church when it is obvious there are dangers, look on even when your hospitals fire whistleblowers on shitty treatment. In China, dynasties have been overthrew because they made people's life hell. I believe it won't happen in the West since people are well brainwashed, and will just point fingers instead.
I guess it is the double standards that irritates me since we were bombarded with anti-Chinese propaganda at the time we are actively fighting the virus. Weak man of Asia and all those crap. And when the time comes where others are supposed to set up, they fucked up and decides to point fingers instead of trying to make things better.
I don't even think the people who complain about needing to work are being honest. Most people know that this is killing people in crowded areas and don't want to be stuck in one place with a bunch of strangers for hours on end. I think the majority are people who want other business to open, because the fact their lives are mildly inconvenienced are more important than other peoples lives (because there's no way they would ever get sick, God's on their side).
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If it helps you you are not alone in that assessment though I think thats extended to a few other western countries (lots of western europe comes to mind and especially the UK).
its what our good friend kamerad here calls anglos being cucked in his great affinity for words
[04:55] Lianru: i3uster is actuallly quite cute
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