Everything we say is worth saying. And that's our business. Whether or not you want to hear it is your business. But given the repeated "idiot" calling...
Everything we say is worth saying. And that's our business. Whether or not you want to hear it is your business. But given the repeated "idiot" calling...
Yes, what's good for the goose is good for the gander: if you eliminate his statues, do so with every single person guilty of the same shit. I already rattled off a name list.Originally Posted by AAM1232
Is it really that hard for retards to understand that you can't single people out for the awful shit they did and treat them different from all the other people who did the same shit but are somehow hailed as heroes?!
Also...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53343551
Sorry America, but your society is not as insane as you think it is.
Meaningless drivel that offers no value is never worth sharing. Whether you can recognise it as such is a different matter entirely.
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Is it so hard for you to not go whining about all the terrible stuff in history just because your feelings were hurt when Columbus statues get torn down by people/government?
I don't know why you think we should worship genocidal maniacs, considering the deal with the likes of various dictators and such, but the deeds of Columbus do not hold up to the test of time. When you can recognise this and stop whining about all the other statues do let us know.
In my case, my drivel is the very fair and scientific "NO DOUBLE STANDARDS" that specifies that a penalty applied for a crime must be applied to all people guilty of said crime. However, Columbus got a treatment that I don't see "the Great American Heroes" getting, despite the fact the existence of sizeable Native American populations south of the US border destroys the genocidal narrative, whereas the US went and watered their fields with Natives' blood under the authority of two of it's greatest presidents.
But Columbus committed genocide and he wasn't an American President! He must be eeevil!
Ah yes reading nonsense that I've never stated or discussed. Maybe it isn't just the recognition of drivel you need to learn, but reading comprehension and general understanding of the discussion as well. Let us know when you've learnt to do that as well.
I apply the same logic to you. What makes George Washington or Boudica morally better and more deserving of a statue than Columbus?
An eye for an eye. Also, about worshipping genocidal maniacs...
This man and this man are guilty of the same thing.
Why does only the latter get called a genocidal maniac, then?
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No, you've done nothing but discard everything I say thus far is technically valid. If Christopher Columbus is a genocide according to you, why aren't the other figures I mentioned?
ANSWER THE BLOODY QUESTION!
You are engaging with stuff I never brought up as a "defense" for Columbus. For the matter of the discussion, such things are irrelevant and your continual adherence to this is frankly incomprehensible. Not sure why you keep replying when it's clear you don't know how to say anything, much less make a point. I wasn't joking when I said "let us know" if you can read, discuss and understand the matter clearly.
everyone mentioned are burning in hell right now so i don't know what's your point
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yes. all settler cr*cker shall be beheaded. insya allah.
That's it then? You're going to act like your argument occurs in a vacuum? That's the funny thing: they don't. You can't just go on making accusations of being "a genocidal maniac" and then say all other things are "irrelevant" to the discussion... irrelevant to the point you want to make, perhaps. All I want to know is where you stand in this regard: do you believe those I mentioned should be judged by the same standard and subject to the same penalties? Or are you simply going to adopt the "if they remove their statues, it's fine anyways" view.
I'm not continuing the debate on the defense of Columbus as much as I am asking why you think he's a genocidal bastard... and if you consider him so, if you consider those other figures I mentioned the same? If you answer yes, then I drop the discussion.
My point has been made already: either Columbus is not a genocidal bastard, or he is, and so are George Washington and Andrew Jackson.
Which means they should've gotten their statues defaced a long while ago...
Oh, it's happening! Alright, Americans are not as hypocritical as I thought...
Never mind. I settle my case.
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Do you not know how to read text on the Internet? Honestly asking considering your posting.
Man, if I could force you to answer the damn question because you're clearly so illiterate you haven't been able to read it in the first place!
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That is always the right answer for this kind of braindead threads.
Your question is pointless, can you understand this or not? Do I have to bring a dictionary and walk you through all the posts since your question on what Columbus did?
hmm today i will infinitely derail the gen news thread
I already dropped the "Columbus killed Indians" part of the argument. I am asking you where you stand because I want to know your opinion on this. Am I not allowed to ask for it? The point of it is very simple: I want to know where you stand on this issue, and I am not going to get that knowledge if you don't answer the question, even if you believe it's pointless.
Trust me, there's a point to be made, but it doesn't necessarily favor me.
Are you that incapable of reading? Have you not seen my first post on this matter?
Do learn how to read please next time so that I don't have to spoonfeed you basic information.
Except that doesn't answer the actual finality of the question. I will do some spoon feeding as well: would you apply the same logic to the likes of Washington and Jackson the same?
I don't accept quotes as an answer. Type me a simple yes or no if it makes it easier for you.
How dare you say that on a Fate board.
So now illiteracy as well as refusal to accept an answer. I mean how do you manage to communicate at all if this is how you post?
Because you aren't truly answering the question, just deflecting. How hard is it to write a yes or no?
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I mean, there are worse places you could go *looks at Davy Jones Locker*
I'm not sure why you are so intent on getting an answer when you were already given one, but it's pretty clear that you can't actually understand what people post. So let us know when you get around to that, and can meaningfully discuss Columbus without derailing it into nonsense.
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