General News Thread

[Leftovers]

Incredibly enough, one does not negate the other. Do not add quotation marks lightly.

[LegalLoliLover]

Fair enough. I removed the quotation marks. Also, note that I had initially wrote "for the most part". In other news, it might be old, but I didn't realize that CHOP were literal Jacobin LARPers:

which is ironic because they hate Nazis, who are Roman LARPers gone horribly awry. I wonder if their ghosts will have freakishly high health bars, like Robespierre's. I also found out that Jacobin is also the name of a modern magazine that keeps screwing up my search for the historical group.

[AAM1232]

Still, the diseases that any colonist brought over probably killed more than any of the colonists' direct actions with guns and whatnot.

Doesn't make Columbus any better or any more worthy of being commemorated or memorialized.

[Ratman]

So uh, it turns out Ghislane Maxwell was a major mod on Reddit, which is not surprising considering her background. In fact, she is the first Reddit user to collect one million Karma. Pretty much confirmed it's her at this point.

Her massive posting history is being looked into, stay tuned.

[Dullahan]

your honour, the defendant could not possibly have been complicit in this instance of sacrificing trafficked haitian orphans to ancient canaanite deities and making shashlik from their extracted pineal glands, because she was - as timestamps confirm - vigorously engaged in a discussion on r/heckincutepuppers for several hours

[LegalLoliLover]

Another difference between protests in China and riots in the US is that I'm pretty sure that protesters in China would never ask for help from the oppressors that they are protesting about:

[Twelveseal]

Looks like the Supreme Court has decided that the ACA doesn't actually guarantee birth control if your employer claims a religious or ethical issue with it.

And also that if you work for an expressly religious company or organization, you aren't protected by workplace discrimination laws. As in, you get a cancer diagnosis while working as a layperson teacher, and your parochial school employer can fire you for it.

So, how many companies do you think are suddenly going to find God?

[LegalLoliLover]

Unfortunately, unlike heritage, such as Native American, where you can check someone's bloodline, there is no way to check someone's soul to see what god they belong to.

[Zork Knight]

Unfortunately, unlike heritage, such as Native American, where you can check someone's bloodline, there is no way to check someone's soul to see what god they belong to.

Well you can check if they have a third teat to see if they belong to Satan at least, as explained by Matthew Hopkins in his FAQ

[LegalLoliLover]

Well then, now only 4299 to go.
Well, I find personally disgusting on many levels:

Guess which ones. In priority.

My parents grew up during the Cultural Revolution, so while I can't directly relate to this, my family can:

[OverMaster]

Doesn't make Columbus any better or any more worthy of being commemorated or memorialized.

Hoo boy, if we're going to restrict public memorials strictly to people who were saints now...

The Egyptian pyramids were made on slave work, and the Mesoamerican ones were used for human sacrifices, I guess it's time to bring them down now...

[aldeayeah]

It rhymes with schmenocide

For the record, the people he's accused of genociding were the same ones that annihilated the first Spanish settlement.

Also for the record, the people in the first Spanish settlement were some pretty dire bastards.

It's not clear cut at all, as usual with history unless you have an agenda.

[asterism42]

Columbus was thrown out as governor of Hispaniola because even the Conquistadors thought he was too brutal

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The Egyptian pyramids were made on slave work

they weren't, actually

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For the record, the people he's accused of genociding were the same ones that annihilated the first Spanish settlement.

Well that totally justifies all the atrocities. I guess the next time someone's mean to me I have historical precedent to kill his entire family and burn his house down.

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The way Columbus is portrayed in Grand Order? That's historically accurate.

[AAM1232]

So uh, it turns out Ghislane Maxwell was a major mod on Reddit, which is not surprising considering her background. In fact, she is the first Reddit user to collect one million Karma. Pretty much confirmed it's her at this point.

Her massive posting history is being looked into, stay tuned.

A chan post theory is not major news or verifiable proof of anything. Do exercise some common sense.

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Hoo boy, if we're going to restrict public memorials strictly to people who were saints now...

The Egyptian pyramids were made on slave work, and the Mesoamerican ones were used for human sacrifices, I guess it's time to bring them down now...

A ridiculous tangent doesn't invalidate my point and I'm not sure why you think this was something worth posting in the first place.

[Zork Knight]

Well that totally justifies all the atrocities. I guess the next time someone's mean to me I have historical precedent to kill his entire family and burn his house down.

I'm not sure the destruction of a settlement and the killing of all its inhabitants equals "being mean". Wikipedia's article on Hispaniola only mentions "trading with the natives" before Columbus left for one year.

[AAM1232]

The natives of the island were systematically subjugated via the encomienda system implemented by Columbus.[151] Adapted to the New World from Spain, it resembled the feudal system in Medieval Europe, as it was based on a lord offering "protection" to a class of people who owed labor.[152] In addition, Spanish colonists under his rule began to buy and sell natives as slaves, including children.[153]

When Columbus fell ill in 1495, "what little restraint he had maintained over his men disappeared as he went through a lengthy period of recuperation. The troops went wild, stealing, killing, raping, and torturing natives, trying to force them to divulge the whereabouts of the imagined treasure-houses of gold."[160] According to Las Casas, 50,000 natives perished during this period, although Las Casas' account has been criticized by modern historians as lacking objectivity and his population estimates are often dismissed.[161] Upon his recovery, Columbus organized his troops' efforts, forming a squadron of several hundred heavily armed men and more than twenty attack dogs. Dogs were used to hunt down natives who attempted to flee.[154] Columbus's men tore across the land, killing thousands of sick and unarmed natives. Soldiers would use their captives for sword practice, attempting to decapitate them or cut them in half with a single blow.[162]

Sure, this is totally stuff that makes a person worthy of statues.

[Dullahan]

It makes you worthy of appearing in FGO, so why not a statue? Probably more people see the former

[asterism42]

he's an utter bastard in fgo tho

[Dullahan]

lol

[Kamera]

Columbus, the archetype Settler, is practically deified by the Settler nation, hmmm I wonder why