No I get that you have a defeatist mindset in regards to that, I just think that's not a solution to anything. With that we'd still be dying of cholera.
No I get that you have a defeatist mindset in regards to that, I just think that's not a solution to anything. With that we'd still be dying of cholera.
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I am always entertained by unironic natural state stans though
There is no solution. Everyone just has different levels of denial. It's the human condition, after all. I thought the class warfare analogy wrt a genetically stratified society would be easy for you to grasp.
Idk I don't feel social isolation is an unsolvable conundrum that actually is a zero sum game like the class struggle. It only becomes one if you literally only make it about fucking (and then some impressive mind gymnastics that everyone fucks exactly once)
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“So there is only enough for one?”
“Yes. A lifetime only has room for one murder. After this, all of it becomes less intoned. The first is always the most important decision. The men who have committed massacres can never turn inward to kill themselves. Because their death would no longer be a human death.”
“Is the sickness hurting you, grandfather?”
“Yes, and I fear this is our parting. Goodbye, . May your own death be filled with peace.”“
Grandfather? What is happening? Why do you die so lonely? Grandfather—”
One important aspect of the problem is that our society often discourages men from forming close emotional bonds with other men (for fear of being seen as "gay"), thereby forcibly offloading all their intimacy needs on an idealized feminine figure. When they for whatever reason are unable to find a real woman who lives up to that archetype, turning to violence is one possible outcome.
...no?
The normal sexually active man wants to go out and imbibe a significant quantity of alcohol before finding a woman who's done the same thing, preen a bit before propositioning her (Who having determined him as the best immediately available option, accepts.) and consummate hastily in the nearest suitable area.
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I get the feeling that you don't actually talk to many normal men.
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Thanks for the hot take.
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It's the result of spending several months in a field study. The sampled population is mostly 18-21 year old physically active American males of differing ethnicity, though a majority are caucasian. To address your objection, they absolutely do.
nothing makes a man more honest about his emotional needs than being stuck on whats essentially a high test school trip
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That's nice jan they don't happen to all be of the same calling in live in exact same rather special conditions hm
For one thing, that's American males of a certain age-group in a particular time and place. Not at all a universal representation of men or masculinity as you seem to be implying. (Other cultures such as ancient Greece actually devalued relationships with women compared to male friendship, and while I won't argue that's healthier it's at least a very different understanding of masculinity).
And I wonder how reliable such studies really are. As a man, I could easily see wanting to boast or exaggerate one's virility and sexual prowess to be greater then it actually is.
What they're honest about is the crippling sadness when their girlfriends leave em for more immediately available dick.