mac dont do this
mac dont do this
To be alive...to walk this earth...that's the real curse.
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mac should not talk about games he has not played
look im a crystal lizard expert ok
i meant just like losing humanity is bad and makes you fall apart, getting corruption is the same
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don't defend yourself you muppet
dont be mad because im right
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
Originally Posted by mAc Chaos
you can really tell you haven't played any dark souls game properly
its not that deep bro
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
I mean, having no stake in this, I can see the comparison. The corruption mechanic isn't too different to turning Hollow. The main difference is corruption is more active and seemingly from an external source whereas the Hollow decline is internal.
I forgot you went as far as dark souls 3's crystal lizard then ragequit out
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see sesto he'd be right if he at any point mentioned going hollow
but instead he chose the exact wrong word
Yeah, exactly.
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
Can anyone with more DnD history knowledge enlighten me why a) Psionics need to exist and b) why they are such a clusterfuck in 5e with 5 different approaches now and every one of them just feels bad
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A) Couple of reasons, probably the chief of which is it appears WotC is working on a Dark Sun supplement where Psionics are a core part of the setting. As for why fans want them, 'cause psychic powers are pretty popular in fiction and they've existed in older editions with unique mechanics. Those mechanics don't currently exist in 5e and so fans of those mechanics would like to see them in 5e.
B) because it's 5e. To be less glib, adding a new system to a game is always hard, and 5e makes that job harder when the only system they have with anything resembling depth is spellcasting. But the biggest problem, I believe, is that they initially tried to add an entire new system (psionics) by representing it as a single class, so every idea they had for psionics went into it. It'd be like if they wanted to introduce spellcasting by bringing in the Wizard, who also had the ideas for Eldritch Knight and Arcane Trickster bundled in it, with the entire spellcasting rules and spell lists as part of the class description. Obviously it'd be a clusterfuck.
Their solution? Cut the base class, put it only into subclasses. Which is like introducing spellcasting by JUST having the Eldritch Knight and Arcane Trickster, and also they don't share any mechanics. And then they tried to go the Artificer route with "lol just reflavour spellcasting" because that's low effort and people already accept vancian spellcasting. It seems they've finally come up with a unifying mechanic to based psionics around, and I could see this psionic die/burnout actually being enough to make a non-clusterfuck class around.
Unfortunately it looks like a Psion class is now off the cards, which kind of sucks. Also while the idea of a psionic die burning out with successive use is cool, as it stands it's very unlikely to actually happen once you get to higher levels, which kind of defeats the point of it.
Newer iteration is better than the last which seemed to mostly just be spells, again, which really made me think what's the point. Mystic was broken in 12 different ways but it at least felt unique, and now they try some middle of the road approach that doesn't really satisfy either side of the debate.
Just doesn't really endear me to the idea of them being necessary parts of the setting especially when they don't really do anything different than their superclasses (arguably with the fighter but we had Eldritch Knight already and now we're getting the Echo Whatever as another Magical Fighter option so idk)
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I don't think there is any point doing it if you're just going to make it spells. That's the shittest option by far, so I'm glad this UA has taken a step back from that.
But Dark Sun existed before 5e, and Psionics are definitely an important part of their setting. Mike Mearls has said they won't do a 5e Dark Sun until they get psionics right, which is a good attitude to have.
To add to what Saiga said, I believe psionics was actually invented even before the Dark Sun setting; AD&D 1st edition had rules for psionics either in the PHB or the DMG, can't remember, and I think there was an OD&D psionics supplement, too - inspired by pseudo-Hindi and Buddhist mysticism, I think? Anyway, if I had to guess why the writers felt the need to add psionics is that early D&D was very much inspired by sixties' and seventies' fantasy, which often mixed and matched traditional fantasy with sci-fi (or "sci"-fi, as it were).
If nothing else, the two main D&D setting currently in use both have had Psionics in the past with varying degrees of importance. Forgotten Realms had various Aberrations, a family of Psionic Drow that figured into the Drizzt novels, and Psionic Yuan-Ti, while Eberron had it baked into the starting Races (Kalashtar and Psiforged) and some of the main antagonist factions (Cults of the Dragon Below, the Daelkyr and their forces, the Dreaming Dark and Inspired) in the world.
Nearly every Edition has had Psi. It's usually optional, but some settings require it. One of which they've already released. Dark Sun, on the other hand, literally made every creature Psionic and magic kills the environment like radioactive waste, so I can see why they want it to work right before they implement it.
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Uh, what? The only Psionic Drow I remember in the Drizzt novels was Kimmuriel Oblodra, he was a part of Jarlaxle's band and not in a family, and I don't think it was ever said the rest of his family had that same gift.
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They did. It's actually a major plot point for them. Oblodra were unaffected by the Time of Troubles, so when Arcane and Divine Magic were jacked up, they nearly conquered Menzoberranzan and overthrew the Baenres were it not for magic returning.
The reason Kimmuriel is with Jarlaxle is the destruction of his house following that debacle.
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[16:43] <Twelveseal> Phallus in wonderland sounds like some bad loli-rape KC fanfic
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Ah, the Drizzt novels. I remember those... *Not* fondly.
Salvatore should have cared more about writing a *novel* than the transcript of RPG sessions.
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