Fate/Grand Order Gameplay Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Nikiri]

Mine is NP2

Took me 4 years to get first Siegfried


do not underestimate the gacha

(speaking as a pure f2p person)

[Zork Knight]

That's why I said most

It took me an absurd time to get Heracles

[manafusion]

I need help. Are both Grand ROMA and Summer Kiara's NP effect, the one that boosts damage based on stacks, a SuperEffective value or a Power Up value? I never really checked it when Grand ROMA came out but now I need to know.

Also, someone mentioned to me that Arjuna Alter's 1st skill's "If enemy is debuffed" damage boost buff is a SuperEffective buff. Is that true or it's just the same as PowerUp as with all other anti-Trait buffs?

[Trubo]

SSR Romulus and Kiara (Mooncancer)'s NP does a Super Effective multiplier, Arjuna Alter is just Power Up.

[Zork Knight]

So Arjuna Alter's adds up with NP Damage Up, while Kiara and Romulus' stacks multiplicatively?

[Trubo]

Yes

[manafusion]

SSR Romulus and Kiara (Mooncancer)'s NP does a Super Effective multiplier, Arjuna Alter is just Power Up.

Thanks! Helps a lot to know on Summer Kiara and Grand ROMA's side of things. Also, thanks for confirming with me on the Arjuna Alter buff.

[bhl88]

Me seeing Asagami Fujino on the rolls in JP.

*flashback*

Kirei: You know all those things I said about you being done? Those were lies, I lied. I'm sorry for lying but yorokobe, shounen-

*rolls and fails*

Kirei: Pfft.

[Trubo]

So Arjuna Alter's adds up with NP Damage Up, while Kiara and Romulus' stacks multiplicatively?

To expand on this. No skill has ever granted NP Super Effective multiplier, and the Anti-debuff Power Up that Arjuna Alter has comes from his first skill.

[Arha]

I only got my fifth Stheno like a week ago, though granted I didn't play for over a year. I think there's some other old SRs I still don't have at NP5.

But Atalanta isn't one of them and she gets over 50% NP back from her NP, so I see little point in going for Ilya. If anything, I'd rather have more copies of Jeanne given that she gets 100% refund quite easily, meaning I can use whatever CE I want with her.

[Pendant]

Fuck those stupid Olympus orb shits

[Deathhappens]

That's why I said most

It took me an absurd time to get Heracles

*raises hand* Two and a half years here.

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And oh yeah, still no Stheno.

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she would have to be twice the dantes to be competitive with kiara, imagine DW releasing that

You say it as if it's not inevitably going to happen anyway

[Pendant]

Is Yu just better than both Scathach and Ana (outside of raid-style battles)?

Is there finally an ST Quick Lancer that can Skadi loop?

[Oz1337]

Is Yu just better than both Scathach and Ana (outside of raid-style battles)?

Is there finally an ST Quick Lancer that can Skadi loop?

Wasn't Lancer Medusa able to NP loop already after the many buffs she got?

[Aozaki-desu]

i havent tested her obviously because i dont have her maxed yet
but her skills are pretty shit
sure she has np5 st antimale np buuuut, like does it matter?
she cant compete with Bryn
can she compete with kenshin? kenshin probably dumpsters her since castoria now exists

going off her sheet alone i'm not impressed but again, no testing yet

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You say it as if it's not inevitably going to happen anyway

i'd say buster is the next in line for buffing, direct or otherwise

[Oz1337]

The next broken thing I'm expecting from Buster is a support that allows Buster NPs to generate NP to the point it allows NP loop, to finally complete the cycle.

Edit: Or even better, that all Buster cards can do that, even normal cards, without the need to put an Arts card first.

[Pendant]

I'm sure Kenshin is better. But, to what Oz said, I have NP5 Medu Lily and I honestly struggle getting anywhere near a loop with her. Maybe if I ran Divine Banquet and I gave her a Bride/Paracelsus on top of the two Skadis maybe then I could do it but I can confirm that under normal circumstances I don't get anywhere near a loop. Just wondering if Yu could be better.

[Trubo]

Is Yu just better than both Scathach and Ana (outside of raid-style battles)?

For general use, yeah. She's very comparable to Tamamo (Lancer), with only real generation difference being that Tamamo (Lancer) has 1 additional hit on Quick card.

Is there finally an ST Quick Lancer that can Skadi loop?

Not happening without at least 10 hits on a Quick NP.

[Pendant]

What about with BB cardlocking her Quicks?

[Trubo]

Probably doable, but not about to check it right now.