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    For 3T Arts loop purposes, if I don't want to use double Castoria, which one's better?

    Not using plugsuit:
    1. Arts Aoe Servant, Castoria, Paracelsus
    2. Arts Aoe Servant, Castoria, (50% NP charger)

    Using order change:
    1. Arts Aoe Servant, Castoria, Paracelsus, Nero Bride
    2. Arts Aoe Servant, Castoria, Paracelsus, (50% NP charger)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendant View Post
    lol Paracelsus can actually full refund farm now, you don't even need to use his huge battery.

    442k on neutral damage. Not half bad honestly.
    With what setup? I guess this'll help getting him to Bond 11 faster

    Also Loli Da Vinci doesn't need fully leveles skills to loop right? Thinking of rolling for her tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    With what setup? I guess this'll help getting him to Bond 11 faster

    Also Loli Da Vinci doesn't need fully leveles skills to loop right? Thinking of rolling for her tomorrow.
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    Keep in mind this is vs Casters so the refund is ideal; you may have to change it up a bit in other scenarios. If required, a simple MC change should do it to help him refund for the second wave and then you can just use his battery for the final wave so even against other classes it should still be very easy.

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    I guess I'll keep that in mind. Too bad DW seems intent on making the best event nodes un-loopable going forward.

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    this is so dumb


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    Also, Loli Vinci loops with 10% Charge Suit against any node with double castoria / LB Kaleido
    2x Castoria is 100% return
    10% from Vinci S3
    10% from suit
    total 120%
    Wave 1 free 100% from kaleido
    Wave 2 she gets 40% passively back and you get 60% recharged
    Wave 3 another 60% recharged

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    Even if it's one mob?

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    Yes, since even if the NP gain was zero, you get 100% from skills, NP and the Mystic Code

    damn, that's nice

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    but LB Kaleido is problematic

    plugsuit with another charge is needed in that case
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    Nikiri has what I dub Blessings of the Boobs, see. As long as what his rolling for has two conspicuous mountains, they'll come to him one way or another.
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    Well, fine. Nikiri has this thing called 「我が往くは爆乳の彼方・・・!」
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    GundamFSN. Thank you.

    Just before rolling I said 「我が往くは爆乳の彼方・・・!」

    First ticket. Da Vinci-chan NP2.

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    That's very nice then. The puzzle of all nodes has been solved. My Loli is already 10/6/9 which is probably enough for this strat, the only issue will be damage since ST waves tend to have pretty big HP bloat. But it's very cool to know she can do this.

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    But like i'm 99% sure you can get away without LB Kaleido as long as at least one of waves 1/2 is 2 mobs
    you need 20% to get rid of LB kaleido and 10% to get rid of MC lock
    any 2-enemy wave should give you 20 if not 30
    in which case there is no problem
    LB Kaleido is only relevant for 1-1-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    But like i'm 99% sure you can get away without LB Kaleido as long as at least one of waves 1/2 is 2 mobs
    you need 20% to get rid of LB kaleido and 10% to get rid of MC lock
    any 2-enemy wave should give you 20 if not 30
    in which case there is no problem
    LB Kaleido is only relevant for 1-1-1
    If it's a 1/1/1 node couldn't you just use Vlad?

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    i mean yes thats kinda the point but i for one dont have him
    5 years without Orion/Jeanne/Vlad and going strong

    anyway the thought challenge is to make ultimate loli vinci
    oh and i guess to proof oneself from 1-1-2 which would be a problem as well
    i do have lb kaleido though so dont-care

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    tbh i should stop being lazy and just run the numbers on how much is refund from 1x berserker enemy with no overkill

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    Da Vinci returns 10% from 2x Castoria Arts and 1x Castoria NP gain up against Godjuna
    math seems to back it up
    alright, fine, so assuming we get 50% each wave using 1x S2 to charge from 80 to 100 on wave 1
    we still need 10% from MC but thats it
    wonderful, simply wonderful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendant View Post
    If it's a 1/1/1 node couldn't you just use Vlad?
    Saber Archer works too. In fact, she's better for Saber, Assassin, Berserker, and Foreigner.
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    Then I will ask that you pay closer attention
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    So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
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    It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

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    So, I see that we've been testing farming setups left and right but I haven't seen as much testing pertaining to stall so I decided to give it a whirl. Went in against my weakness since I wanted to really test it in the crucible.

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    Roughly 50 turns in and this is where we stand

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    So I've got a stupid question, as I've never really looked into the command code system until now. With the changes you can just swap them out with no cost and the command code cards aren't lost either, right? Basically like craft essences for cards, that you've got to unlock first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malgos View Post
    So I've got a stupid question, as I've never really looked into the command code system until now. With the changes you can just swap them out with no cost and the command code cards aren't lost either, right? Basically like craft essences for cards, that you've got to unlock first.
    That is correct. After two years' time they've finally learned some humility and abandoned the dumb system. So just see how many unlock items you have and pick some of your favorites and unlock their decks. Then you can freely swap CCs around between them as the situation dictates. Probably gonna finally start dabbling in CCs now thanks to this very welcome change.

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    I felt dumb buying the shop remover the moment I learned about the change, they're pretty much useless now. Not that I ever used them enough to hurt for them before, but still.

    In other news, Swimsuit Blyatsky can't loop for shit. Swimsuit Marie tragically also isn't looping any time soon.
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    Don't worry, regular Helena pretty much can't loop either unless you're going for some method to partial refund from NP + supplement with batteries.
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    Then I will ask that you pay closer attention
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    So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

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    wow

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