Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    We will have to wait until her interlude for that, which could be very soon or very long time from now.

    That reminds me, SQs when. Give me SQs DW, there are so many Servants that need.

    well actually not the many but it certainly be nice for more
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    Are all the text about the new Servant's Noble Phantasm going to be like her's and Qin Shi Huang's?
    That would be the most annoying thing ever... so, yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    Eh that's a pretty common thing, annoying but its that.

    If anything I'm more perturbed by the vagueness of her skills and the lack luster of her apparently 2 NP.
    In all fairness, the profile outright says her spear has no anecdotes, so I'm honestly surprised it even counts as a Rank B NP (being intimidating to Anti-Heroes sort of makes sense given she got started by squashing a rebellion, but it should be D Rank at best), and isn't just a well known armament like Koujirou's sword.

    As for her main NP... to be blunt, despite her fame in China, her story isn't all that impressive compared to other Servants, even with the skill-wank that Asian martial arts Servants typically get. She basically only ever fought against normal soldiers and bandits. Really, the only notable things about her are her loyalty to the regime that falsely imprisoned her husband and the fact that she was a woman general in an era where that typically didn't happen in her culture.

    She's basically female Diarmuid ("muh loyalty"), but with none of the supernatural elements that make Diarmuid viable against other Servants. Her Lostbelt self must have trained like a madwoman to be so formidable, because her Pan-Human self has no business being a super-badass (compared to other Servants, I mean; obviously by normal human standards she's amazing).

    I feel like they should have played up the aspect of her as a general more. Her group was called the White Calvary? Make it so her Skills work best when she rides in to rescue others. Skills that allow her comrades to survive and create openings for them to win, or bonuses when she flanks an enemy whose already engaging allies, etc. Make her kit more than "female-Hozoin" (who, I kind of feel she should swap rarities with; for art that bad she should be a 3 stars at best). Her dialogue has her hoping the Master will occasionally consult her advice given she has experience as a leader? Play up on that. Maybe Military Tactics at a lower rank than the more famous generals.

    I do like that her loyalty-based Skill has the side effect of making her appear super trustworthy to her Master (in exchange for her near-blind loyalty she gets your unconditional trust). Lol, basically she doesn't have Diarmuid's problems of getting along with her Master, despite not having special powers or weapons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    This problem seems really-really apparent on Japanese/Chinese Servants. They talk where it comes from but don't explain anything what they do. And it sucks.
    It's not just Japanese/Chinese Servants either. Serenity was essentially given an entirely new NP that she never even hinted at having in Fragments, yet all her Mats profile gave us was a name. She needs an Interlude explaining just what the hell 'Heaven's Door' is, and why she never used it, or even mentioned it, before.

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    more like white spear soldiers than "cavalry"
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Actually her Spear being B Rank as a skill doesnt necessarily mean its B rank as an NP. There has been cases with other Servants where this wasnt the case, Mordred and Eric. Though sometimes there was cases where it was exactly the same so who knows on that one.

    And to be honest I'm fine with her level of strength, I dont see it being that abnormal, theres plenty of other Servants like her on that front. If anything I'm more perturbed about Nezha's strength from what I heard from the LB, it just feels that she is way more nerf then shes supposed to be and I wish that the Mats will actually give a reason for that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    Actually her Spear being B Rank as a skill a skill doesnt necessarily mean its B rank as an NP. There has been cases with other Servants where this wasnt the case, Mordred and Eric. Though sometimes there was cases where it was exactly the same so who knows on that one.t
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
    art that bad
    People keep saying this, why do they enjoy being wrong?
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    Isn't LB Xiang Yu being his panhistory self because of Hinako deciding to become a HS after her last conversation with Qin? Also in regards to Chaldea's particular summoning system, I don't think Consort Yu being summoned with her memories all the way up to her last moments as Hinako is a dependable example of her situation under regular conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    People keep saying this, why do they enjoy being wrong?
    Her final art is fine (or at least acceptable, unlike Anastasia's absolutely hideous art), but her first three ascension pictures just look like someone did a bad knock-off of Masamune Shirow's style and then stuck her in Nightingale's pose. I don't dislike her design; in fact, I think it's great, but her actual art... not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    People keep saying this, why do they enjoy being wrong?
    she looks like she’s made out of play-doh please open your eyes

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    more like white spear soldiers than "cavalry"
    Maybe this is the reason for rank.

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    better than most of the recent 5* art so hey
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    Because Jack and Chloe are in the game already and after that really anything seems tame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiKeo View Post
    better than most of the recent 5* art so hey
    Yeah, but at this point the game is popular enough that hiring sub-par artists or accepting bad art from otherwise decent artists should no longer be an issue. Certainly not on 5 Stars. I was appalled at how bad the art on Anastasia is. This was the flagship Servant for the first Lostbelt and her face looks like some bad clay animation character. Her actual in-game sprite is fine, but the card art remains bad from start to finish, whereas at least Nightingale's final ascension art looks decent.

    The game developers should be holding themselves to a higher standard now that the game is a proven cash cow for Type Moon and Delightworks. The animation update for old Servants is already a great start, next how about art updates, or just no more bad art to begin with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
    the card art remains bad from start to finish
    I refute this. Her final art is good and if you say no your taste is shit imo.

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    Why are you even talking about art here?
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    Anastasia is perfect smh

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    so who writes the crypters? nasu?

    also, how long until all crypters are summonable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
    Certainly not on 5 Stars. I was appalled at how bad the art on Anastasia is. This was the flagship Servant for the first Lostbelt and her face looks like some bad clay animation character. Her actual in-game sprite is fine, but the card art remains bad from start to finish, whereas at least Nightingale's final ascension art looks decent.
    The fuck ?

    Just because you don't like the style doesn't mean the art is bad

    Like Raffle said, some people really like being wrong

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    anyone got a link to skadi's profile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobin View Post
    I refute this. Her final art is good and if you say no your taste is shit imo.

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    Anastasia is perfect smh
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    The fuck ?

    Just because you don't like the style doesn't mean the art is bad

    Like Raffle said, some people really like being wrong
    The amount of bad taste in these three posts is horrifying. Anastasia is a fine character, has a great design, and I will admit the artist does a decent enough job on her outfit, but if you guys think that face is good art you are smoking something. There are literally fanartists who do a better job of illustrating her than Shimadrill. Can't imagine why anyone likes his stuff.

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