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    It's possible the Olympians just told people, resulted in stories about the Titans being on Earth.
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    That too, but does it explain Chiron? Not so sure because I've not heard anything about him being an indigenous god anywhere.
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    Maybe he'll get another Interlude or something in the future, ¯\(°_o)/¯
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    I was under the impression the Titans never even got to Earth though.
    The realm of Hades is made out of their "corpses" in the Lostbelt. So I'd assume Olympians dragged their bodies to Earth at least. Then there is also a myth in which Zeus forgave Cronus and released him from Tartarus.

    Perhaps the Titans were in the same position as the Mecha-Gods defeated in the Olympiamachia?
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    Well, Atlas was a Divine Spirit and he was a Titan so at least part of him made it to Earth? It's possible that the Titans (and maybe the Primordials) were downgraded into the forms Earthlings know them by after losing their mechanical forms, just like how the Olympians lost their original forms during the fight with Sefer. Speaking of which, did any new info crop up about Sefer's siblings: Velbers 1 and 3 since Extella Link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post

    Or Kronos could have had some bunrei or other make it to Earth and have Chiron with Philyra.
    Something close but I don't think it'd be a bunrei.
    The Titans vs Olympians was Titans wanted too keep going through space Olympians wanted to smell the roses, pick up some worship. So Titans vs Olympians must have happened after they found Earth.
    Cronos was made into the Cronos Crown that's the foundation for Olympus, but through stories and belief a Divine Spirit Cronos probably came about taking attributes of the Titan and Near eastern fertility stuff. Evidence for this would be how the discori were Gods but when Wodime killed them were contracted to him as Divine Spirits also we see Divine Spirit Atlas in Olympus. So Titans can become Divine Spirits and after Gods die they can become Divine Spirits.
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    Well if the Titans did get to Earth then that makes it not a problem, Chiron's dad would have been Divine Spirit Cronus.

    'Cause Chiron himself says he's Cronus's son when he starts his duel with Achilles in Apo, so it's not a human invention.

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    So Olympians aren't Titan's children?
    Gaea and Ouranos never fucked and created Titans?

    What's exactly happen honestly? I don't follow it if Olympians are from space
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    Like I said, its possible that Primordials like Gaea and Ouranos were either parts of Chaos or were the first version of the fleet sent out before being overthrown by the Titans. As to the children issue, I suppose the progression from Primordial to Titan to Olympian is still true, from a certain point of view. Its just the process was more mechanical than biological.

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    Oooh I see
    Then where's the Gigantes come from? Are they native from Earth or another Alien?

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    Is that mean Typhon is probably another super big mecha?
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    Oooh I see
    Then where's the Gigantes come from? Are they native from Earth or another Alien?

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    Is that mean Typhon is probably another super big mecha?
    The Gigantes were the remnants of Sefar, the Alien that came to Earth and the gods fight. She destroyed their true mecha bodies and they later became Divine Spirits, all this happen in the proper human history. But she was defeated for someone wielding Full Power Excalibur and her remnants later became the Gigantes. Probably Typhon is the same, I think some stories have him the king of the Gigas.
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    Oh, wait. I guess it makes perfect sense.

    -Mecha/God versions of Titans get yeeted
    -but wuh oh, human myth and stuff sublimates them as Divine Spirits anyway
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    How was Thyphon defeated again? I believed it was Zeus who fought it while other Olympians hiding

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    Isn't thyphon supposed to be like the biggest threat after Cronus for olympian? How this defeated Zeus beat it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballinamon View Post
    The Gigantes were the remnants of Sefar, the Alien that came to Earth and the gods fight. She destroyed their true mecha bodies and they later became Divine Spirits, all this happen in the proper human history. But she was defeated for someone wielding Full Power Excalibur and her remnants later became the Gigantes. Probably Typhon is the same, I think some stories have him the king of the Gigas.
    I thought Gigantes war and Typhon war are separate war?
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    In Panhuman history, they couldn't win Gigantomachia so they asked human heroes (Herc was one of them iirc) to help.

    In LB5 history, Mega Zeus just 1 shot all of them.

    No mention of Typhon anywhere.

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    Not a single one?

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    How about Nyx and Tartarus?
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    Typhon was mentioned by Nasu as an example of a Divine Beast back in the CM3. So it must have existed in some capacity.
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    Considering how "Echidna" was in Atlantis, chance that Typhon was any relevant in LB5 is pretty low, so no surprise they did not mention it.

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    At this point I wouldn't be surprised if eventually we'll get Gigantomachia event with Guda being spirited away Sieg-style featuring the rest of the Olympians and some leftover greeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold Experience View Post
    At this point I wouldn't be surprised if eventually we'll get Gigantomachia event with Guda being spirited away Sieg-style featuring the rest of the Olympians and some leftover greeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold Experience View Post
    At this point I wouldn't be surprised if eventually we'll get Gigantomachia event with Guda being spirited away Sieg-style featuring the rest of the Olympians and some leftover greeks.
    Turns out Hephaestus saw Sefar get demolished by Excalibur so he tried to copy it. The end result being Marmyadose leading us to the event servant Saber Heracles.

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