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Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quoren View Post
    Have they ever elaborated on the surviving lady, seeing as she isn't named there? Always seemed weird her sprite hasn't appeared once since the prologue.
    Since Goredolf is listing their last names (See how he says Meuniere instead of Jingle) she could still be one of them, we only know her first name.

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    Theory time.

    Back in the prologue for LB3, Sion's briefing stated that LB6 was the only Lostbelt whose border made out of wall of light instead of storms. This is probably because it's no longer sustained by the Tree, but instead by something else, likely Rhongo. That would mean that the Lostbelt was already unfit for the Alien God to descent at least as far back as before LB3. Not sure when Kirschtaria ordered Beryl to burn the Tree, that time or just before Atlantis Lostbelt. Either way, British Lostbelt is possibly taken over by its King, akin to what Lion King had done to Jerusalem, which I guess the similarity is intentional. I recall Zeus also planned to take over the Lostbelt as his own, albeit using Fantasy Tree's help during his battle. Now Britain has severed the ties with Alien God in similar way.

    Unrelated, but with only two Lostbelts left, I wonder if the potential Lostbelt collision will happen in this part 2 between Britain and South America. And now with Alien God has its eyes on what's in LB7, while LB6 has Beryl with an independent King, and Koyanskaya, this could make for an epic four-way battle with Chaldea.



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    Quote Originally Posted by OnesFleetingGlory View Post
    That would mean that the Lostbelt was already unfit for the Alien God to descent at least as far back as before LB3.
    According to Beryl, that part is because there's a woman there who drank up the contents of the Tree.

    Quote Originally Posted by OnesFleetingGlory View Post
    Unrelated, but with only two Lostbelts left, I wonder if the potential Lostbelt collision will happen in this part 2 between Britain and South America. And now with Alien God has its eyes on what's in LB7, while LB6 has Beryl with an independent King, and Koyanskaya, this could make for an epic four-way battle with Chaldea.
    To me the more likely possibility is just Team Chaldea and Team Alien God (which here is just Muramasa because Limbo is dead and Kotomine and Olga are in Brazil) team up against the British Lostbelt, and the British Lostbelt side is fully eliminated from the conflict at the end of this chapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    To me the more likely possibility is just Team Chaldea and Team Alien God (which here is just Muramasa because Limbo is dead and Kotomine and Olga are in Brazil) team up against the British Lostbelt, and the British Lostbelt side is fully eliminated from the conflict at the end of this chapter.
    Much likely if Beryl got a taste of his own medicine: he is stabbed in the back by his servant and princess when he is busy fighting Chaldea. Alien God just come in and easily beat the weakened party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herod View Post
    Because it, for whatever reason, a writer needs to use someone for narrative purposes and they can't use the named character, they can use them. They are a narrative safety valve.

    Original Da Vinci couldn't manage the original Chaldea by herself, and in the border she is completely unable to move around.
    And yet the fact that in 9 Singularities, 4 Remnant Sigularities, and 5 Lostbelts (plus all the .5's and every event Singularity to date) they have never been given any narrative significance beyond cursory window dressing shows that the writers disregard them as much as the audience does.

    Like, the only time they were even miniscully relevant was in the LB prologue when they needed someone to talk to Guda about their 'promotion' that wasn't Da Vinci or Holmes. Either acknowledge them more (especially since you already made Meuniere practically part of the main cast) or kill them off altogether and replace them with Shadow Crew or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnesFleetingGlory View Post
    Theory time.

    Back in the prologue for LB3, Sion's briefing stated that LB6 was the only Lostbelt whose border made out of wall of light instead of storms. This is probably because it's no longer sustained by the Tree, but instead by something else, likely Rhongo. That would mean that the Lostbelt was already unfit for the Alien God to descent at least as far back as before LB3. Not sure when Kirschtaria ordered Beryl to burn the Tree, that time or just before Atlantis Lostbelt. Either way, British Lostbelt is possibly taken over by its King, akin to what Lion King had done to Jerusalem, which I guess the similarity is intentional. I recall Zeus also planned to take over the Lostbelt as his own, albeit using Fantasy Tree's help during his battle. Now Britain has severed the ties with Alien God in similar way.

    Unrelated, but with only two Lostbelts left, I wonder if the potential Lostbelt collision will happen in this part 2 between Britain and South America. And now with Alien God has its eyes on what's in LB7, while LB6 has Beryl with an independent King, and Koyanskaya, this could make for an epic four-way battle with Chaldea.
    A conflict between Lostbelts would require the authors of the lostbelts to not lock themselves in their own basement/dungeon and write something that doesn't tie into anything else at all for once.

    Aka I super doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menwearpink View Post
    A conflict between Lostbelts would require the authors of the lostbelts to not lock themselves in their own basement/dungeon and write something that doesn't tie into anything else at all for once.

    Aka I super doubt it.
    Nasu do it.

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    The chance for all that passed five lostbelts ago/from the concept itself.

    Nasu likes dark souls.

    He should've have had the lostbelts and crypters parallel Chaldea by having them project themselves as Dark Souls Phantoms with hero squads to raid each other.

    Also tbh Nasu hasn't really written much at all for Part 2. Even with Lostbelt 6, he's basically retired from FGO. You're probably better off asking Higashide at this point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menwearpink View Post
    The chance for all that passed five lostbelts ago/from the concept itself.

    Nasu likes dark souls.

    He should've have had the lostbelts and crypters parallel Chaldea by having them project themselves as Dark Souls Phantoms with hero squads to raid each other.

    Also tbh Nasu hasn't really written much at all for Part 2. Even with Lostbelt 6, he's basically retired from FGO. You're probably better off asking Higashide at this point!
    So that piece where Musashi cut the road of Chaos is whose's doing? And the one with A team boss?

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    Hasn't written much =/= hasn't written anything. Come on, this is ridiculous reaching even for you.

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    "Nasu takes care of the overall plot, and hands the material regarding what should be done in each chapter as well as the plotlines that should be covered to the other writers. After that, the writers will work on their Lostbelts and if Nasu thinks there’s no problems then he’ll leave it entirely to them. Once they’re done, he’ll go through their completed script and add plot details he thinks might be necessary for the overall story. He tries to make the words and actions of the characters consistent not just within the particular Lostbelt, but also in Part 2 as a whole. As a writer, he’ll write his own assigned scenarios and also looks at how things come together as a whole, edit the text for all scenarios, and manage the Servant character backgrounds. He’ll read the background for the Servants written by the other writers and tweak them if necessary to match with the feel of FGO. But event scenarios are an exception, there he lets the writers write what they excel at so outside of the plot itself he doesn’t make any changes, though there are exceptions. For example, a certain writer A-san is handling 20 Servants. But Servants that they aren’t in charge of also appear, so the quality of that part would drop no matter what. This is the point where Nasu, who’s in charge of all the Servants would help to make the writing better. Nasu also takes care of Mashu, Gordolf, and all the Chaldea team’s dialogue. If they were to break it down, for the main scenarios the text would be 30% Nasu, 70% other writers, while in events it would be 80% other writers, 20% Nasu. They have to write about 500 kb of text (250,000 letters) every month."

    Plus writing all of Olympus post Zeus being defeated plus now writing LB6, Nasu's not remotely retired

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    Wasnt it stated somewhere that Nasu writes till Chaldea puts boots on the ground and again after the defeat of the LB king?

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    If you mean that he writes prologues and epilogues, then yes, although not exactly that specific. It goes into the whole "make sure everything connects well and write characters that span several chapters" thing.
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    So Nasu writing the entire LB6 probably means it will be important to the overall plot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fumei View Post
    If you mean that he writes prologues and epilogues, then yes, although not exactly that specific. It goes into the whole "make sure everything connects well and write characters that span several chapters" thing.
    He worded it that specific tho. And at least in Olympus, you can see the chapters 嗚呼s becoming ああs the scene immediately after Zeus' defeat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shlugo View Post
    So Nasu writing the entire LB6 probably means it will be important to the overall plot?
    I could argue every part 2 chapter so far has been relevant to the overall plot. Even if all Oo'oku and Heian did were checking names off the enemy list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fumei View Post
    If you mean that he writes prologues and epilogues, then yes, although not exactly that specific. It goes into the whole "make sure everything connects well and write characters that span several chapters" thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    He worded it that specific tho. And at least in Olympus, you can see the chapters 嗚呼s becoming ああs the scene immediately after Zeus' defeat.
    Here's the link to the translation of the post where he worded it that way: Nasu Kinoko's Bamboo Broom Diary (16th April 2020)
    Now. Even in this "Greek Chapter", the chapter writer is responsible for what happens [from landing until the Lostbelt King is defeated], as usual. Having received that, I handle rewriting the text as a whole, adding the prologues and epilogues, and also settings and stories that span across chapters.

    But, this time I also participated as a writer. This time it is Part Two's turning point and climax... it's a scenario of [Here let's wrap up the Crypters' story for a moment], so I have the responsibility of tying together the scenario in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post



    I could argue every part 2 chapter so far has been relevant to the overall plot. Even if all Oo'oku and Heian did were checking names off the enemy list.
    Sometimes I feel like checking names off the enemy list means less defeating them/removing them from the story, and more adding them to the gacha so they can be bought these days.

    As far as LB6 being more important because Nasu is writing it, maybe, but also maybe not. It might just be more important to the overall setting, or is just something Nasu wants to write, or is something Nasu is writing so they can go "this is a certified Nasu-written chapter!" as a marketing line.

    Because it is absolutely a marketing line even if it doesn't exist for the sake of being a marketing line.

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    At the very least going by the OP Chaldea is going to get that Lancer added to its main character ranks.

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    So apparently the lostbelt's story was leaked on a chinese forum. Going by the translation, it seems pretty interesting.
    Could be fake too, but if that is the case then the guy making the fake leaks is really dedicated.

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    Can we not post these "leaks" here if possible? If somebody wants to read them, they can just go to 4chan which is where it's probably being posted.

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