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Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    The whole "Woodwose survives and makes his way back to Camelot to die in front of Morgan" is a very Shakespeare scene.

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    You know which character I wish had more to do before they died? Portunes. He seemed to have a very interesting backstory with Ainsel, his dialogue style seems pretty cool, and I actually tend to like hyper competent assassin minions when they actually become something of an obstacle for the heroes.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    I don't know if I mentioned this the other day, but Portunes is also mentioned in that book, and I laughed when I saw it.

    Anyways I do agree, I think he should of done one more thing in the background before getting killed off.

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    Seriously?! I need to be the next one to take a crack at that book.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Page 321, last paragraph of the Fortune entry:

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    If Saber and Shirou got married... Would that make Shirou the Queen of Britain?

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    Wait...Huh? But I, what? I.. ah ARGH!!!

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    I'm so glad this is becoming a thread to shit on Barbara Walker.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    As long as she continues to be relevant, and as long as she continues to be wrong, it's fair game.

    Quote Originally Posted by celsius View Post
    If Saber and Shirou got married... Would that make Shirou the Queen of Britain?

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    I still don't feel like I garnered anything from that book. Most of the stuff in it seemed to already be used. Only interesting thing I saw was

    but even then that's just more obvious than anything. It's hard to call something from it. You can read all this bullshit and not know what Nasu is going to use until he uses it.

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    SEVEN BONUS LOSTBELTS INSIDE THE EARTH
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    >Holmes set up the hollow earth as being important
    Gets the old gnoggin joggin'

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    So FGO is just a huge case of plagiarism on Barbara Walker's fabrication? Damn.

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    >Holmes set up the hollow earth as being important
    Gets the old gnoggin joggin'
    Godzilla vs Kong's hollow earth was pretty fun.

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    I wouldn't call it plagiarism. Walker presents her book as a factual encyclopedia, except she literally makes stuff up. TM just happened to choose a bad book as a source. SMT takes even more from that book, and I wouldn't call it plagiarism either.

    Quote Originally Posted by celsius View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriulio View Post
    I wouldn't call it plagiarism. Walker presents her book as a factual encyclopedia, except she literally makes stuff up. TM just happened to choose a bad book as a source. SMT takes even more from that book, and I wouldn't call it plagiarism either.
    I mean, just because it's bad nonfiction, it doesn't mean it can't be the basis for good fiction because it absolutely can be. It does actual myths and legends a disservice this way, but using it as a basis for fiction isn't necessarily wrong.

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    Also, if Morgan and Vortigern were both embodiments of Britain in PHH and we're at least partially fairies, does that mean Uther, as the inheritor of Britain's primeval mana, was also at least partially a fairy?
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Nah, Uther should be a moogle, it is why he banged that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    I mean, just because it's bad nonfiction, it doesn't mean it can't be the basis for good fiction because it absolutely can be. It does actual myths and legends a disservice this way, but using it as a basis for fiction isn't necessarily wrong.

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    Also, if Morgan and Vortigern were both embodiments of Britain in PHH and we're at least partially fairies, does that mean Uther, as the inheritor of Britain's primeval mana, was also at least partially a fairy?
    Morgan is part fairy because the planet decided it and it had nothing to do with being the incarnation of Great Britain, Vortigern is part fairy because he ended up mixing with Oberon, there is no reason why Uther is part fairy.
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    In the nasuverse the easiest way to find out who is the strongest is to have them fight. Whoever loses was the stronger one.

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    Just had a discussion with a friend. We wonder if Nasu will have the guts to include Jesus in the game as Pretender since it will make a fun narrative.

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    Because he would do? What would be the justification for he to fit into that class?
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    Dont think Gil yelling at you to become a uberman will get you a thousand blades unknown to life nor death.
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    In the nasuverse the easiest way to find out who is the strongest is to have them fight. Whoever loses was the stronger one.

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    Alien all along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfredo845 View Post
    Because he would do? What would be the justification for he to fit into that class?
    Fake Messiah. The God that Jesus preach does not exist, and he is fooling the world with his teachings.

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