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    You know, on reflection, I'm pleasantly surprised at the relative lack of "woke" commentary surrounding Caenis getting a swimsuit. Probably because they didn't really change outfits all that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    You know, on reflection, I'm pleasantly surprised at the relative lack of "woke" commentary surrounding Caenis getting a swimsuit. Probably because they didn't really change outfits all that much.
    True. That, and what's needed to be said about them was already said when they initially were released as a Servant.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    All I can say is that I feel the Stegosaurus was wasted and more wasn't said about dinosaurs in TM. It hurts extra because stegosaurus are from the Jurassic, which Tiamat is explicitly as old as.
    do you not familiar with Doraemon movie?

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    >Dinosaurs Summer
    >No Quetz


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    No. I've never watched any Doraemon stuff.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    No. I've never watched any Doraemon stuff.
    this summer event had too many parody and references but the main parody is Doraemon's first movie: Nobita's Dinosaur.

    we might not get details of dinosaur mystery but this whole event could be the hint of LB7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    True. That, and what's needed to be said about them was already said when they initially were released as a Servant.
    Caenis was always a bad fit for a “trans rights” Servant anyway—their desire to go from female to male is explicitly due to trauma rather than any inborn quality, and when they die, their corpse is female.

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    I do like the way their internalized misogyny is handled, truth be told, and in their Bond 4 lines or whenever they mentions what Poseidon did to them and the self they was before then, I think the emotions they express in those lines feel fairly real and well done.

    Although, people can decide to transition for any reason, including a non-dysphoria reason, and not be any less valid as a trans person or nb person. That's just my two cents.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Don't forget Caenis was also bragging about how she was going to rape Anastasia in front of Kadoc
    The Dioscuri did nothing wrong

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    we might not get details of dinosaur mystery but this whole event could be the hint of LB7.
    Either I've forgotten my Agarthas or some of those quest backgrounds look suspiciously like LB7 Spoilers

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    Other than making Kadoc uncomfortable, I don't think the I-got-raped-and-decided-to-become-a-man-so-I-would-never-suffer-that-again person ever actually planned on raping anyone, let alone another woman.
    Then again making the joke alone was already pretty damn crass, ao who knows.
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    Caenus/Caenis leaned hard into ancient Greek toxic masculinity for that one, and they were a conquering warlord once they became a man, so chances are, they might have raped someone. I dunno, maybe they specifically didn't.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Caenis is a very self-admited shithead who very much prides himself being an usurper and a tyrant. His “never be weak again” is internalized to the point of hating weakness. Empathy is absolutely not his thing. His redeeming moments are all about his respect toward Kirschtaria and Goredolf, both cases which come from the amazing guts it takes to trust someone that openly awful. I believe Caenis wouldn’t rape Anastasia because she’d slap him and he’d respect the attitude, but I definitely wouldn’t put past him raping someone he perceived as weak.

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    Makes sense. They basically overcompensated ancient Greek dudebro energy as a result of trauma.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    One thing that has been bugging me about LB6 for a while is how the heck did Aurora and Melusine somehow hide the fact that the latter killed off the Mirror Clan? The latter isn't really known for stealth when she kills things, and yet everyone assumed that the Mirror Clan just disappeared, turned invisible, or changed appearances rather than that they were all killed off by the most loved fairy.

    Also, speaking of the Mirror Clan, would it be fair to say that they, or at least Ainsel, were better than the average fairy and that they, like the Rain Clan, accepted their culpability for the fate of Cernunnos?
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Bryn... how is Caenis your type...
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    They technically have redeeming qualities? I mean, Bryn's type is very, very broad when it comes to men.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    One thing that has been bugging me about LB6 for a while is how the heck did Aurora and Melusine somehow hide the fact that the latter killed off the Mirror Clan? The latter isn't really known for stealth when she kills things, and yet everyone assumed that the Mirror Clan just disappeared, turned invisible, or changed appearances rather than that they were all killed off by the most loved fairy.

    Also, speaking of the Mirror Clan, would it be fair to say that they, or at least Ainsel, were better than the average fairy and that they, like the Rain Clan, accepted their culpability for the fate of Cernunnos?
    One, Fairies are stated repeatedly to be very pure and innocent (doesn’t mean they’re GOOD by any measure). Part of that purity involves a lack of doubt or permanence. Almost all the Fairies in Morgan’s court (the ones enjoying her benefits) jumped as soon as Aurora made a trumped up story that wouldn’t hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny because they’re like children. Tell a kid a lie and they’ll believe you quite easily. And as soon as the situation no longer concerns them directly, they’ll forget about it.

    Tough to say, since we don’t much about the Mirror Clan, but it’s logical to conclude that, since they basically paid the price for being decent individuals amongst fairies.

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    Ah, I forgot that everything Aurora says is true even to Aurora herself. With that in mind, she could have easily convinced the fairies into forgetting that FK Lancelot slaughtered a whole bunch of fairies, and Morgan likely didn't even care. I still find it odd that not even one fairy mentioned seeing Lancelot in Mirror Clan territory around the time they all disappeared.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    because Aurora made all the witnesses disappear too?

    when it comes to gathering information wind clan is the best.
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    You mean Wind Clan, right? Also, that does potentially explain things.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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