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    One off the top of my head is Medea's original master. When Nasu told Sanda to make it Atrum from the anime in CF, and Sanda said "But the VN said he was a fat middle-aged guy", Nasu's response was basically "yeah but this is my new idea instead".

    I don't think straight retcons are really that common from him, though they definitely exist.

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    "Pegasus is 500 mph" got the shit retconned out of it, considering how slow that is relative to every later part of the franchise.

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    Sorry for being off-topic, but gotta ask.

    As an NA player, Heian is going to release this year. From what I read so far, I'm worried the translations won't do justice for the more archaic terms used in its script. So my question is to people who're familiar with JP Heian; how likely the translations came out well without footnotes?



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    Expect a lot of linguistic and cultural intricacies to be left out. Heian is very off the default style even for Sakurai standards.

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    I see. Guess I could only hope that at least the plot still holds up without those. Thanks for the answer.



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    (Not much to hold up tbh)

    I would sort of expect the difference between reading Pride & Prejudice, and watching Pride & Prejudice & Zombies. That is to say, they'll add in a bit of language flair where they think it sounds nice but it's not there because that was how the original text was and they're trying at all to convey the same tone text-wise.
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    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


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    > Einzbern

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    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


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    ACE14 revealed LB7 subtitle is 黄金樹海紀行. We only knew the 樹海 part before. Rough TL would be something like "Golden Sea of Trees Travelogue", or more proper English something like "Travelogue from the Golden Sea of Trees". We still don't know the second half of the subtitle, which is ◻️◻️◻️ ◻️◻️◻️◻️◻️, or the main title which is ◻️◻️◻️◻️◻️◻️◻️◻️.
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    A lot of people think that the main title is xibalba, does it fit the character count in japanese ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhplayer View Post
    A lot of people think that the main title is xibalba, does it fit the character count in japanese ?
    シバルバー

    I'm betting it'll have something to do with ORT or UOM specifically.
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    The third one isn't that good at all. They went out of their way to say who made it when they stopped doing that too. And it wasn't nearly as good as Fate/Zero. The Hinako stuff and her robot was just dumb. The Lostbelt King barely did anything either. Having some famous voice actor isn't enough. Especially for people like me.


    There's only section left now before the third part.

    This makes no sense. That's totally something she'd do too. They're alike, so why disapprove of this?


    Why did those rebels attack the army and what was Gareth's whole deal?


    I like how the idea of being able to see lies is a bad thing. Like, that sounds pretty cool, but being able to do it all the time will get annoying.


    Woodwose still being alive without a heart is a surprise too.



    He never looked angry when I saw him, but okay.
    I finished part 2 of Avalon le Fe.


    Barghest
    But...I burned your forest down. Do you not loathe me, Oberon the rebel?




    Oberon
    I do. But that's not something I need to be remembering now.
    I'm happy they actually decided to mention that.






    Morgan
    It is precisely because it is the middle of the city. There is no need to lie in wait for insects.
    That's what they all say...


    Artoria
    For a wicked queen, that kind of felt anticlimactic. I was prepared to face something even worse.
    Those are my thoughts, even after what happens next.


    Narration
    Familiars constructed with magecraft? No, that's not it. Judging by the quality of the magecraft, it's got to be Morgan herself.




    Narration
    It's a thoughtform. An alter ego on the same standing as Morgan.




    Narration
    Morgan has not left the throne. It didn't matter whether the Fairy Knights were present or not.




    Narration
    What a blunder. This is my mistake. I underestimated the queen who reigned over Britain for 2,000 years.




    Narration
    I should never have set up a 'war' against the likes of her. If she was to be defeated, it could only have been through assassination.




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    Having an equal amount of troops was meaningless.




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    Morgan alone outnumbers the entire military might of Britain.




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    From the very start, that woman was capable of slaughtering the rebels without moving an inch from her throne...!
    So I guess she made copies of herself. How many though?


    Aurora
    So you insist on having faith in Her Majesty no matter what...? Then, keep this in mind.




    Aurora
    If Her Majesty tells you that she sent no reinforcements, that is the truth.




    Aurora
    It means Her Majesty had faith in your power and decided they were unnecessary.




    Aurora
    But...if she tells you reinforcements were sent...




    Aurora
    Then that is a lie. A lie meant to deceive you. A lie meant to cast off the Fang Clan.




    Aurora
    After all, reinforcements were never sent. That is the indubitable truth.




    Aurora
    Her Majesty decided to abandon you because you've outlived your usefulness.
    That's not exactly how it down though. So she's lying? But why? Is what she said after even true?


    Still what really made it ironic, but anti-climatic was that she ended up not getting killed or defeating in a big final battle, but ended getting killed by her people. Especially after revealing she could make copies of herself.
    I know there's a third part, but still. If I had a nickel for every time this happened recently, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.


    It's strange though.


    She's a Lostbelt King, how could Woodwoose have even have done that to her?


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    That's why, after I died at Darlington with my soul worn out, with no next generation to speak of, she brought me back to life and told me:




    Morgan
    You should live heinously. You should live cruelly. You cannot live otherwise.




    Morgan
    Just once. Even just once is fine. If it means you can lead a happy life—
    And what exactly is happening here?


    Morgan definitely isn't as strong as the mecha gods or Arjuna. Maybe like Skadi or Qin Shi Huang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumei View Post
    "Golden Sea of Trees Travelogue"
    Elden Ring, O Elden Ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    That's not exactly how it down though. So she's lying? But why? Is what she said after even true?

    She's a Lostbelt King, how could Woodwoose have even have done that to her?

    And what exactly is happening here?
    1) Aurora lies all the time. She's a cunt.

    2) Most of Morgan's powers are all but explicitly stated to come from her throne, and so if she isn't sitting on it she's way weaker. She let her guard down because she has an emotional connection to Woodwose. Afterwards, she couldn't just do whatever because they had her beloved child hostage. The circumstances really stacked against her, culminating in probably the most human downfall yet.

    3) Tristan was killed over and over, and eventually you'll just sort of lose your reason to live as a fairy and stop reincarnating (there's a bit of an implication that it's an energy thing and that if you just keep killing them enough they'll also stop reincarnating). Morgan brought her back when she had reached that point, likely because she saw a part of herself in Tristan.
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    Also Morgan is not really the Lostbelt King during the story as the Tree is dead, so she can't use it's power.

    (Lostbelt King is an individual who is connected to Fantasy Tree)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    So I guess she made copies of herself. How many though?

    That's not exactly how it down though. So she's lying? But why? Is what she said after even true?

    She's a Lostbelt King, how could Woodwoose have even have done that to her?


    And what exactly is happening here?
    Enough.

    Morgan delenda est.

    Because he's buff.

    YKTristan had a hard life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sentence View Post
    Also Morgan is not really the Lostbelt King during the story as the Tree is dead, so she can't use it's power.

    (Lostbelt King is an individual who is connected to Fantasy Tree)
    She is for all intents and purposes still the king as she took all its power for herself, and was the one who maintained the world after the tree died. In a sense, actually, you could say that she surpassed the tree and thus surpassed the role of Lostbelt King.
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    Isn't Throne the Tree replacement and not Morgan herself? I doubt she can take the whole Tree's power for herself, it's probably too much for regular Saint Graph.
    Hence she is not that strong outside of Throne.

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    Yes, but no one else did what she did, so as sole progenitor of the system I think it still fits. With almost no preparation time she ripped off Reishifting, basically conducted actual time travel, killed a Fantasy Tree without issue, revived a world worth of fairies and stored away the rest of the power from draining the tree, and then continued collecting energy for thousands of years. Castoria even mentions that while she can technically connect herself to the throne, it's tuned to Morgan, so it's not like anyone can just sit on it and have it all be fine either. It's the whole point of why you know who is revealed to be you know what in the third part.
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