I don't think that's true. At no point FGO ever mentions Velber. It mentions Sefar. There is no info given about where Sefar came from or why. We know because we have context from Extra, but FGO itself hasn't given us anything beyond "there was a Sefar and it got killed"Originally Posted by Mr_eLka
Maybe it's not just me, but I suspect that CHALDEAS dome/canopy isn't meant to block the communications and trap people from escaping earth, but rather to protect earth from extraterrestrial threats and whatever is going to happen to the universe while CHALDEAS' ritual is ongoing.
I don't think there is a universe outside.
The fact that Sefar was never referred to as Velber 02 in FGO directly, doesn't mean we should immidietly assume that the Velber dont exist in FGOs timeline. Assuming that the Sefar that WAS mentioned just so happens to be an invader from space that looks at least very similar to Velber 02, and is responsible for the same events as Velber 02 would be a very odd assumption to make.
Now's a good time as any to recall my theory that the Animusphere'sis to trap the universe inside Earth. CHALDEAS sucks to itself the texture of the Earth. A fully bloomed fantasy tree prints the observable universe on Earth's surface, creating a true geocentric model, with Earth as the center of the Universe. CHALDEAS switches everything again, trapping the universe inside it and putting Earth's surface back. With the universe now trapped inside CHALDEAS it had administrative powers over anything that could ever harm humanity.Grand Ordergreat objective
The Animusphere chant:
INGREDIENTS:
: CHALDEAS as a model of Earth (hoshi = star but also planet).StarsThe Shape of the Star
: The model of the observable universe that Marisbury needed Daybit for.CosmosThe Shape of the Sky
: Fantasy Trees, which mold the god's vesselGodsThe Shape of God
: Olga's soul, the basis for the Alien God/PriestessAnimusThe Shape of Self
RECIPE:
: Clean the Earth's surface from the Human texture. Earth is now hollow.AntrumCelestial Bodies are Hollow
: Print Space/The universe over the blank Earth (using Daybit's model as a basis). The Hollow planet is as the empty space of the universe, as such, one can be the other.UnverseHollow is Empty Space
: Switch the texture of the Universe with the human texture. Now CHALDEAS, the alien god, houses the Universe. Humanity eternally safe, maybe also root reached?Anima AnimusphereIn space, lies God
Last edited by MoonCell; February 29th, 2024 at 08:36 PM.
Yeah, it would be an odd assumption to make. Good thing it wasn't the assumption the guy was making.
The assumption his was making is that a fair twist and accessible narrative requires all the relevant information to be contained in the same story. Sefar is always a Velber because TM titles share history, but Sefar is not called a Velber in Olympus because it being a Velber is not relevant information to Fate/Grand Order.
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Is this a new esoteric take about aliens not being real or is it just saying that since the contents of Earth and CHALDEAS are swapped, leaving Earth would only put you inside CHALDEAS?
Counter-point: Sefar sets up the idea that there can be outside threats that meddle in human history and I fail to see in what way an introduction of another threat related to the threat directly mentioned would be "unfair" from a narrative standpoint.
In a way, the fact that Sefar is one of the Velber is irrelevant, yes. But this alone doesn't immediately mean that we shouldn't speculate if the other Velber could become a threat. The mentions of Sefar in such a scenario would serve as foreshadowing of such an other. Since if there is one entity that can cause such destruction, there is no reason to assume there aren't others.
A viewer who doesn't use any supplementary material would just probably think "Oh, a similar thing was established earlier in the story and now they are expanding on it." rather than feel cheated.
The latter.
Isn' the Sun still around
No definitive proof.
Is it ever not bright on the bleached earth?
So many anomalies that aren't addressed for some reason. Breathable atmosphere without greeneries, bright sunless sky, contradicting observations between Chaldea and Bluebook's accounts...
That's not because of the sun. It cannot be.
Announcement A No past observational data found.
Statistical response, forecast, and prediction abilities compromised.Announcement A Unable to detect anomalies in observational data.
Unable to detect any form of electromagnetic waves.Announcement A Unable to detect cosmic rays reaching Earth. Announcement A Satellite visual feed lost.
Mauna Kea Observatories transmissions lost.Announcement A There are currently no observable celestial objects on Earth
Earth is the Solar Itinerary equivalent to CHALDEAS' Nahui Mictlan.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Well, something like that. I actually think the whole "CHALDEAS and Earth were swapped" is a big misdirection. This whole thing really only starts making sense once you consider CHALDEAS a model of the universe instead of the Earth (see the aesthetics of the Priestess). In that case, you swap the universe instead. Hence, the universe outside disappears.
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Just my personal theory, and could be wrong, but I wonder if that's the reason the map for navigation used by Chaldea changes from a globe into Mercator projection in Part 2, since the current 'Earth' they're in is distorted so much that an actual globe no longer faithfully represents the shape.
interesting, i guess that would make them sisters?
i guess that would make them sisters?
More like plagiarism.
Who?
Triten. The original CHALDEAS. Support real artists like Caubac Alcatraz.
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