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    I know he’s biblical but I do want Moses added already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonCell View Post
    an effing city I just sigh.
    Tenochtitlan is kino by being so unbelievably outlandish as a concept that I can't help but love it, but it also makes sense with how the franchise presents whole planets as essentially super-organisms, and if that's the case then there's no reason that can't apply to smaller-scale entities such as cities as well. Moreover, Tenochtitlan's existence doesn't actually deny the existence of an actual Tlaloc Servant (although Tezcatlipoca being conflated with Huitzilopochtli does deny that one, which pisses me RIGHT OFF, but this is a different problem with Fate and syncretism in general)

    I've never thought of the Lovecraft Servants as being spooky or even trying that hard to be spooky to be honest (they have a spooky aesthetic but that's different from actively trying to creep out the player), this franchise basically just treats them like super aliens



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    It's common to pick a servant to embody a broader concept as a whole, considering the writer might not want to, or have the opportunity to come back to a very similar character afterwards (only FGO gives them that chance and even then, they're more likely to spread out than focus on one topic). See Da Vinci embodying every renaissance man, Mozart musicians, Hans fairy tale writers, Shakespeare playwrights, Edison every US president I guess, and there's probably more I forget.

    It gives them the chance to make one really robust servant embodying the entire concept because they might just never come back and do "sequels" and making one really good all encompassing servant is probably better than several weaker ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonCell View Post
    an effing city
    City as a Servant is great and it's sad we're probably only ever going to see Tenochtitlan, probably.

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    I knew it. the hands say no but the heart yearns for it



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    Quote Originally Posted by Formless Creature View Post
    Tenochtitlan is kino by being so unbelievably outlandish as a concept that I can't help but love it, but it also makes sense with how the franchise presents whole planets as essentially super-organisms, and if that's the case then there's no reason that can't apply to smaller-scale entities such as cities as well. Moreover, Tenochtitlan's existence doesn't actually deny the existence of an actual Tlaloc Servant (although Tezcatlipoca being conflated with Huitzilopochtli does deny that one, which pisses me RIGHT OFF, but this is a different problem with Fate and syncretism in general)
    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    City as a Servant is great and it's sad we're probably only ever going to see Tenochtitlan, probably.
    I'm pretty fond of Tenōchtitlan (whitewashing aside), at least how she is in Nahui Mictlān (everything since then has been utterly disappointing) down to the hilariously awesome interpretation of a temple as a mecha. Like, THAT is the type of liberty I'd like to see. However, I do worry about the obvious implications of a city becoming a servant. The last thing I want from this franchise is for it to reinvent Hetalia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirishima View Post
    It's common to pick a servant to embody a broader concept as a whole, considering the writer might not want to, or have the opportunity to come back to a very similar character afterwards (only FGO gives them that chance and even then, they're more likely to spread out than focus on one topic). See Da Vinci embodying every renaissance man, Mozart musicians, Hans fairy tale writers, Shakespeare playwrights, Edison every US president I guess, and there's probably more I forget.

    It gives them the chance to make one really robust servant embodying the entire concept because they might just never come back and do "sequels" and making one really good all encompassing servant is probably better than several weaker ones.
    And what about a weak/bad all encompassing Servant? Because there's been more than a few of those as well. Or rather I feel it's the majority of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    City as a Servant is great and it's sad we're probably only ever going to see Tenochtitlan, probably.
    Kinda sorta Constantinople as a faceless NPC.
    Petri's arbitrary limit
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    Hans is great but passing on the chance to do Brothers Grimm is real lame. The Brazilians here had better hope they never touch the Wright brothers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    City as a Servant is great and it's sad we're probably only ever going to see Tenochtitlan, probably.
    Truly impressed by this franchise's self-restraint that Rome hasn't been given the Tenochtitlan treatment yet and that it doesn't look like Nero wearing the Coliseum as armor



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    Type-Mexico justifies her existence because of her incredible second ascension. Also I do genuinely really like how she embodies the two patron deities of Tenochtitlan and uses their twin temple as her NP. It's a cool idea.

    Unfortunately the writing for her summer version made me want to die.

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    i didn't read that summer what'd they do to her



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    Went really really hard on the waifu pandering.

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    Oh. Unsurprising, given her valentines.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Formless Creature View Post
    i didn't read that summer what'd they do to her
    Ever since LB7 her sole reason for existence is to make horny jokes about the Master living in her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Link0306 View Post
    I know he’s biblical but I do want Moses added already.
    I want to see Moše (Moses) too, but I do feel underwhelmed by his design being so pale and young. I think all they had to do was make him look a lot like he does in Prince of Egypt. I think the beard is a little too iconic to not include. If not a long one, just give a bit of hair, hell, I'd even settle for stubble. I also worry about the risks of them portraying him in a more generally Judeo-Christian way. The thought of them invoking the classic "Horned Moses" thing in an insensitive way really doesn’t enthuse me about his implantation any time soon. If they perhaps give him a sort of…radiant and shining aura around his face with rays that sort of resemble horns (horns were culturally significant signs of being divine or in touch with it in the Near East, which is why theres sort of some wordplay for describing him as either radiant or horned, especially since Hebrew is mostly written without syllables besides niqqudim) then I’d be all for it. But I worry that Fate may not consider this, which would be awful as the horns usually do have antisemitic connotations. Beyond my vested interest, it’s kind of something I hope TYPE-MOON averts for the sake of their own ethos.

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    Which is also why we won't get any other city. She's "the city Servant" and that's all they need, just like Kirishima said

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Ever since LB7 her sole reason for existence is to make horny jokes about the Master living in her.
    Nasu wants to write an H-scene so bad the poor man is undergoing withdrawal. Give this 50+ year old man one last chance to enjoy his molluscs



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Squirrel View Post
    And what about a weak/bad all encompassing Servant? Because there's been more than a few of those as well. Or rather I feel it's the majority of those.

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    Kinda sorta Constantinople as a faceless NPC.
    How well they do it is sort of not really the point, I was just answering why they seemingly made Avicebron the symbol for Judaism

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    If we ever get one of the 12 apostles that's the only one we're ever gonna get, huh? Better hope it's not Judas.



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    Yeah, the waifu-pandering for Tenōchtitlan is just abysmal.

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