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Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Ashoka's character as a whole feels like a loveless labor. Much like his lines give him nothing, his story appearances fail to justify his appearance.

    He debuts in Samurai Remnant event, where easily could have been slotted as a parallel to Takeru, as the bloodstained conqueror who learned the value of peace in the second half of his life. But the event does not touch that topic, so he's kinda just there.

    Then Trinity Metatronius tries to place him as a parallel to Kadoc, as another penitent trying to live with the massacre they caused, but it does nothing to establish Ashoka's feelings to make their connection work. All his story time accomplishes is to get me thinking "If he exists only as a parallel to Takeru and Kadoc over the same topic, why not just cut the middle man and have Takeru as the Granato resident who connects with Kadoc? Their mindset is already plentifully fleshed out without demanding the extra effort Trinity Metatronius is clearly unwilling to put on, and them being part of the Hell warden list would have at least made the seven maidens joke feel like a lot less of a non sequitur."
    TM try to flesh out Indians who aren't from the Mahabharata challenge IMPOSSIBLE

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    Hey we got Kama

    Ok a lot of that is because she's a Sakura but

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAM1232 View Post
    TM try to flesh out Indians who aren't from the Mahabharata challenge IMPOSSIBLE
    Lakshmi's right there
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Our Angra is literally Shirou, there's no difference, it's straight from HA
    Yeah, this is very explicitly just Shirou-Angra, same memories, same personality, he even has Shirou’s height and weight.

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    Also in his interlude Angra’s “Shell” (well it just says “it’s” but presumably this is Angra related) is straight up Emiya.
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    In the nasuverse the easiest way to find out who is the strongest is to have them fight. Whoever loses was the stronger one.
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    Nasu juggles Chekhov's guns like they're tennis balls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    All his story time accomplishes is to get me thinking "If he exists only as a parallel to Takeru and Kadoc over the same topic, why not just cut the middle man and have Takeru as the Granato resident who connects with Kadoc? Their mindset is already plentifully fleshed out without demanding the extra effort Trinity Metatronius is clearly unwilling to put on, and them being part of the Hell warden list would have at least made the seven maidens joke feel like a lot less of a non sequitur."
    This would require Takeru to appear without Iori, something the writers appear to be unable to do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    In the nasuverse the easiest way to find out who is the strongest is to have them fight. Whoever loses was the stronger one.
    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Nasu juggles Chekhov's guns like they're tennis balls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Lakshmi's right there
    Pseudo + using dubious sources marks her down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Link0306 View Post
    Hey we got Kama

    Ok a lot of that is because she's a Sakura but
    Turns out I'm not okay with reusing other characters as the base for new ones, who knew.

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    Lakshmi’s not a pseudo tho right? She just looks like Jeanne right
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    In the nasuverse the easiest way to find out who is the strongest is to have them fight. Whoever loses was the stronger one.
    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Nasu juggles Chekhov's guns like they're tennis balls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie25 View Post
    Lakshmi’s not a pseudo tho right? She just looks like Jeanne right
    Lakshmi being inside Lakshmibai, presumably.
    Petri's arbitrary limit
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    write a really long story featuring "why my relationships with young girls are totally innocent"
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    This is the real reason why we all come to BL btw.
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    Thank you for coming to this failure of a post.
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    Your gay awakening is far more interesting than any discussion on Beast's Lair the past few weeks
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    It doesn't matter how easy it is to look up, you don't check things you're fully confident to know the answer.



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    Alakshimi, different goddess.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post
    Some pantheons are depicted as Tamamo, while others are only potentially Tamamo.

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    Well the point stands she's the host for a divine Spirit all the while being a Servant in her own right.
    Petri's arbitrary limit
    Quote Originally Posted by tsugumi View Post
    write a really long story featuring "why my relationships with young girls are totally innocent"
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaya View Post
    This is the real reason why we all come to BL btw.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shade696 View Post
    Thank you for coming to this failure of a post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirishima View Post
    Your gay awakening is far more interesting than any discussion on Beast's Lair the past few weeks
    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    It doesn't matter how easy it is to look up, you don't check things you're fully confident to know the answer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie25 View Post
    Lakshmi’s not a pseudo tho right? She just looks like Jeanne right
    Looking like Jeanne is the dubious sources part.

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    It's not a matter of sources. They just wanted an excuse to make her market to an existing audience and just used that as an excuse for the design

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takashi View Post
    It's not a matter of sources. They just wanted an excuse to make her market to an existing audience and just used that as an excuse for the design
    If it's material used as inspiration, it's a source. Let's not quibble here.

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    I meant that the intention came first then they used the material for it. Like they used myths and secrets by Barbara.

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    RIP Lilith, you'll be missed o7
    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    You're free, Raff. You're free...

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    Hi, so I'm back with a question. I unfortunately can't read Japanese but you guys can and I want to know if there is something contradicting an idea I had in OC4 or any other Ordeal Calls - Mainly I was thinking about the whole texture swapping thing that has become the basis of the story so far, and I had a simple revalation:
    What if the textures were not swapped at all, and instead we were simply transported onto Chaldeas at the beginning of Part 2. The only thing being swapped in this example, would be the antarctica of Chaldeas and antarctica of Earth of both planets, maybe possibly alongside of Area 51. This is based on what Da Vinci says on substitution magic.

    That could also explain the operating room in Area 51, and there are two possible explanations - dependant on whether the corridor that Bluebook went through is the same as we go through in Traum, because the descriptions are different enough that I'm not sure if that's possible.
    Possibility number 1 - There was never an operating room on Chaldeas, Area 51 on Chaldeas simply has a corridor that connects Chaldeas to an operating room on REAL EARTH'S Area 51. That means that Bluebook simply got moved from Chaldeas to Earth and we are moving through the same corridor as he did, when we get to that operating room, we are actually on the real Earth again.
    Possibility number 2 - The room was SPECIFICALLY kept the same on Chaldeas and Earth so that they would be valid targets for substitution magic and were swapped in between planets.

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    Oh Megatron actually has a Be Afraid line, that's hilarious.
    The Summer Passionlip cycle

    just-world hypothesis
    Nasu is totally hinting at her coming! Promo art! Voicelines! NPC swimsuit! He wouldn't mention her in the interview if he didn't succeed this year!

    just-world fallacy
    Actually, that doesn't mean anything. Plus what you get in the end might not be what you wanted.

    belief in a just world
    Well, whatever, fine, I'll wait for next year. Or the next. Or the next. On and on.



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