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Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castellan View Post
    I don't think it's really about what he expected to happen. Olympus makes it pretty clear that he implicitly trusts that whatever Caenis does, it'll be something to his advantage. He didn't expect them to join up with the Chaldeans necessarily, but he expected them to be a spanner in the works for the Olympians that he knows he'd have to deal with eventually in order for his plan to succeed. He wasn't expecting the Chaldeans to be able to get around Caenis' kind of finicky personality (at least while under the effects of Mad Enhancement,) but he also trusted that Caenis would find their way back to him eventually because they know enough about Kirschtaria's plan (and his general dislike of the Dioscuri) to trust him in spite of what happened in Atlantis.

    And a lot of Caenis' more aggro moments in Atlantis are likewise less about them being aggressive (although they definitely are) and more about trying to avoid Kirschtaria having to get involved in the confrontation with Chaldea because they're well aware of how fragile Kirschtaria actually is beneath that air of invincibility and how he needs to conserve his strength for the final confrontation with Zeus. It's almost like a particularly violent protector instinct.
    I suppose maybe that's what it ties back to for me - perhaps I'm just stupid, but part of me just can't reconcile what happens to the two of them in Olympus with what happened to Caenis in Atlantis. Unless Nasu has commented on the matter or something similar.

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    I mean anyone remember how like he had a augur/seer servant and like that got handwaved in a blog or some supplementary as him like lying? or something

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    He was dying the whole time and knew he could only fight 3 more times. One asker was like "Sure, we know what that was about, but what did Zeus think that was about?" and Nasu answered that Kirsch was pretending his 3rd Servant was an oracle and predicted the number.

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    Kyokutei Bakin:

    STR:C
    END: C
    AGI: B+
    MAG: B+
    LUC: C-
    NP: A
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    Bob the Builder's evil twin.
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    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


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    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


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    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.

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    Curse
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    "Its simplicity was very simple. It’s impenetrable."

    Amazing.

    "Though it was a simple plot, it was precisely because of its simplicity that it was impossible to circumvent."

    You can thank me later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    Huh, is this the first explicitly Confucian Servant?


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    Oh Boy, Don't Mothman near her or him. They might be blood in the walls if that were to happen

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    Are the 8 dogs like the story that inspired those ones from okami?

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    Yes, and the priestess commanding the dogs in Okami is Bakin's 3rd Ascension.

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    This event is just Tametamo wank, dude outshoots all the other Archers in Chaldea, including a Grand Servant
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly

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    Orion was just regular Archer though?

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    Was it straight out said or is it just assumed? The other Archers never really showed their max ranges outside of preferred ranges(like EMIYA in F/SN of 4KM) so Tametamo's massive firing range may not be all that out of the ordinary.

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    I have to give huge kudos to Meteo(?) for the lengths he went to replicate Bakin's eccentric prose in his and Fusehime's dialogue. Really congratulable work.


    I don't think I have the skill to ever do it justice, but I hope this is at least one tenth as obnoxiously unreadable as it deserved.

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    Now this is art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    The Noble Phantasm isn't shown?
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    Bob the Builder's evil twin.
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    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


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    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


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    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.

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    Locked until the event is done, I assume.

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    Bakin's VA nailed the three characters mashed into one perfectly imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    I have to give huge kudos to Meteo(?) for the lengths he went to replicate Bakin's eccentric prose in his and Fusehime's dialogue. Really congratulable work. I don't think I have the skill to ever do it justice, but I hope this is at least one tenth as obnoxiously unreadable as it deserved.
    Thanks for the translation!
    The long length of historical and literary details on the profile plus stuff like Bakin possesing Michi's body makes me think the servant may have been a collab between Sakurai and Meteo. It may not have been, but I just can't see the king of minimalist profiles do one with so many lenghty details, it just looks like a Sakurai's profile, specially if compare to the likes of Murasaki's profile, but then again the father-daughter bond is a Meteo thing for sure.

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