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    Finally updated Erice's lines with the shop stuff. She talks about talks about not-yet-released Karin content when you complete all the missions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    probably the sort of person who translates 'ano hito' into 'that person' instead of 'them' or 'they'
    But sometimes, "that person" makes more sense than trying to torture English grammar to follow Japanese idiom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    Gan-Kutsu-Oh sounds cooler and it's voiced by George too.
    Thing is, the Count of Monte Cristo anime was odd. The King of the Cavern is apparently an alien parasite that took over the Count of Monte Cristo, and unlike the original, the Count dies to cement that annoyingly disgusting "revenge is bad" cliche. Anything that opposes that nonsense should be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAM1232 View Post
    How?
    Oh, the last part.
    However... That won't happen. And I am really sorry for him.No matter what, the great god's "hope" will fail, as there is a fundamental flaw in his plan.
    My work comes after that, and I get to keep my life. It works out perfectly.
    It's like, he's going to help them, but they're going to fail anyway. And if you know that, why wouldn't do something about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    Oh, the last part.

    It's like, he's going to help them, but they're going to fail anyway. And if you know that, why wouldn't do something about it?
    It's Zeus who's going to fail. So it works out perfectly. They aid eachother until their plans conflict, Zeus' fails and his succeeds

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    Has Fate ever stated the connection between Lucifer and Babylonian kings?

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    I'm pretty sure the closest they ever got of mentioning Satan wad Amakusa or Douman calling his boss Satan

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    There is also a bit on summer Melt's profile
    https://www.reddit.com/r/FGOGuide/co...rylis_profile/
    All Leviathans are treated as female, and later on, depicted as a huge snake in their image.As humans prior to the medieval ages saw the sea as living at close quarters with death and through how people saw the violent and bestial nature of this creature as something of a demon, eventually it was depicted as a great demon that represented "Envy" of the "Seven great sins".
    Leviathan in the Demonology is believed to hold a significant position after Satan and Beelzebub. Furthermore, it holds the authority of a great admiral of hell. According to the Book of Job, that creature was described to be so big that it causes the sea to flow in whirls just by swimming and allow raging waves to surge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    Has Fate ever stated the connection between Lucifer and Babylonian kings?
    Don't think so as far as I can remember
    The closer we got to anything babylonian and demonology is the synchretic mess that is space Ishtar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    Oh, the last part.

    It's like, he's going to help them, but they're going to fail anyway. And if you know that, why wouldn't do something about it?
    Think of it as a "I will support your plan the way you want it to play it" and less "I will make sure your plan succeeds"
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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    Has Fate ever stated the connection between Lucifer and Babylonian kings?
    I'm assuming you're referring to Lucifer and Etana being both Venusian figures in their respective mythologies. Thankfully as others have pointed out, TM has been fairly restrained in using Lucifer/Satan so far.

    So no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    I'm assuming you're referring to Lucifer and Etana being both Venusian figures in their respective mythologies. Thankfully as others have pointed out, TM has been fairly restrained in using Lucifer/Satan so far.

    So no.
    Given their comments elsewhere, I'm pretty sure they mean the whole thing where Isaiah's talking about a Babylonian king (perhaps Nebuchadnezzar II, nobody's sure) and the whole thing only got twisted into "Lucifer the fallen angel, probably Satan himself" later.
    In any case, though, Lucifer's only come up... once, I think. In Douman's speech, referring to the Alien God.

    It's worth pointing out that there's only two Babylonian kings who have been even remotely relevant in Nasu (Gilgamesh and Dumuzid), and both of them are from 2000+ years before the Neo-Babylonian Empire Isaiah's talking about. Forget Lucifer, we don't know shit about Nebuchadnezzar II.
    (Note that while Darius III is vaguely connected to all this, he ruled from Persepolis and his Nasu background is mostly just Alexander the Great memes.)

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    Isnt Nebuchadnezzar II mentioned in the profile of hanging gardens? like he would be the proper owner
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    It'd be kinda cool if Mephistopheles had some actual tie to the devil after all, rather than just being a homunculus.

    Maybe he could be a vessel for an actual devil or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byegod View Post
    Isnt Nebuchadnezzar II mentioned in the profile of hanging gardens? like he would be the proper owner
    Yeah, in the Apo Mats
    Nitocris of Babylon (who is his daugther or wife depending the family tree analysis/theory you pick) has also being mentioned on Darius III's profile
    Honestly, I'm surprise we haven't seen neither of these two since they are the most famous characters from the Chaldean dinasty of Babylon

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    What's more surprising is that they don't have Tadakatsu Honda yet, let alone people from the oldest civilization
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    Quote Originally Posted by neveron View Post
    It's worth pointing out that there's only two Babylonian kings who have been even remotely relevant in Nasu (Gilgamesh and Dumuzid)
    In CCC Gil also mentioned the king Ur-Nammu, the Third dynasty king who established the oldest law code of humanity. Prior to his code they just do w/e they like.

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    Does Erice in Requiem fight relatively evenly with the average servant? Just curious about how much power she gets from her ghosts. Haven't had the time to properly delve into Requiem

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    Does Erice in Requiem fight relatively evenly with the average servant? Just curious about how much power she gets from her ghosts. Haven't had the time to properly delve into Requiem
    Erice or should I say her ghosts are specialized in killing heroic spirits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    Erice or should I say her ghosts are specialized in killing heroic spirits.
    well, yes, but there is a difference between being a "killer" and being a "warrior"

    for example, Kiritsugu can't just walk up to a random strong mage and one shot them, despite being called the "mage killer".

    so is Erice capable of actually fighting servants in the normal sense or is she just a "killer" of servants?

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    yes Erice can fight servants but that doesn't make her as human with capability of fighting servants yet.

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